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Master_Forcekin #21 Posted 22 September 2014 - 01:43 PM

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The RoF and the accuracy of the top gun is increased when you equip the second turret on the IS-8.

I recently researched it and did some testing. :)


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LeopardA27 #22 Posted 10 October 2014 - 06:22 AM

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Hi all

just upgraded to Is 8 and have a few hundred battles.

I personally think its best as a flanker or in pairs with other tanks.

I think i stand a better chance after all the upgrades as well

Lost a lot of battles in beginning,usually last man standing and dont stand a chance against 2-3 enemy tanks.

It all depends on the team you are playing with


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View Postsmalley, on 10 August 2014 - 10:16 PM, said:

Not being funny here but when should a heavy support a med.?

 

An IS8 and T54 is a deadly combination! T54 fly's up and drives around you, then its at that time the accompanying IS8 takes a shot in the rear as it follows up behind.

 

I sold my Is8 after getting the IS7 but the Is8 does have a different play style to the IS3. I personally found this tank relies more on armor angling rather than thickness of armor.


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View Postsk8xtrm, on 10 October 2014 - 09:15 AM, said:

 

An IS8 and T54 is a deadly combination! T54 fly's up and drives around you, then its at that time the accompanying IS8 takes a shot in the rear as it follows up behind.

 

I sold my Is8 after getting the IS7 but the Is8 does have a different play style to the IS3. I personally found this tank relies more on armor angling rather than thickness of armor.

 

Both IS-3 and IS-8 ( and IS-7 when we're at it) have pike nose armor design that is only effective when standing right in front and facing opponent under no angle.Angling tanks with pike armor is not recommended.

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ExXCuBiToR #25 Posted 10 October 2014 - 09:02 AM

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View Postx_Iskra_x, on 10 October 2014 - 09:49 AM, said:

 

Both IS-3 and IS-8 ( and IS-7 when we're at it) have pike nose armor design that is only effective when standing right in front and facing opponent under no angle.Angling tanks with pike armor is not recommended.

 

 

I love it when they DO angle their tanks :justwait:

Easily took out an IS-8 yesterday in my T34 that way.


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Ojsze #26 Posted 10 October 2014 - 09:15 AM

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IS-8 has two faces :)

When you shoot you are heavy. When you are being shot at then you are medium :)

Kind of ... (I think)

 



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View Postx_Iskra_x, on 10 October 2014 - 09:49 AM, said:

 

Both IS-3 and IS-8 ( and IS-7 when we're at it) have pike nose armor design that is only effective when standing right in front and facing opponent under no angle.Angling tanks with pike armor is not recommended.

 

Sorry I am aware of the pike nose, I was referring to angling it to absorb the shots up the side :)

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Master_Forcekin #28 Posted 10 October 2014 - 11:45 AM

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View Postx_Iskra_x, on 10 October 2014 - 10:49 AM, said:

 

Both IS-3 and IS-8 ( and IS-7 when we're at it) have pike nose armor design that is only effective when standing right in front and facing opponent under no angle.Angling tanks with pike armor is not recommended.

 

I find that the front is often easily penetrated, especially if the other tank has a height advantage. The best angle is straight front, and maximum usage of your (small) gun depression while hiding your lower glacis.

 

If you can get a hull down position, while keeping your turret moving is the best if you want to trade shots, but I guess this is true for almost all tanks.


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KieronGSi_1 #29 Posted 19 October 2014 - 10:38 PM

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The is-8 is the worst tank I played, I levelled it up to maximum and it hasn't got enough armour or firepower to be a heavy.  Awful awful awful.  I lived the is-3 and the is-7 is phenomenal, but the is-8 should be taken out the back and put down. It's got the worst attributes of all tanks, slow, weak armour, no fire power. Horrible horrible machine. IS-7 makes up for it once you get past it though. 

The_Masked_One #30 Posted 15 November 2014 - 01:05 AM

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Welle ehhh, IS-8 for me is kind of a discussion point. Its armor is just garbage everybody knows that already. But still it can be a great tank to play, the M103 for example its side armor is like the flipping worst and sidescraping is absolutly impossible but i see a lot of people do extrme ly good in it. So my question now is: Is it the  IS-8 thats bothering u all, or is this whole field filled with slow noobs? IS-8 can be great, but it has to be driven correctly



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I believe it's unfair to say the IS-8 is a bad tank. It certainly lacks armor, but most of the players will bounce as they don't dare waiting for solid aiming in front of the IS-8 big gun. 

The only games where I was in serious trouble were when rushing alone in unreasonible places, sniped from afar or engaged into the "circle of death" by a tier 9-10 medium in good hands (to note that ANY heavy tank would be in trouble, it's not an IS-8 specificity). 

 

The IS-8 requires a different play style and understanding of its odd defensive angles. You should sidescrap systematically in town. In open spaces, if you manage to get your lower plate protected by some rocks, you should face the enemy, not angle at all to maximize the chance of bouncing. Otherwise, you may wiggle laterally and forward/backward to hope for a misplaced shell. I managed more often than not to have Death Star shots deflected at its driver's dismay. Actually, the highest IS-8 scourge in frontal attacks in my experience is the ISU-152 with base gun shooting HE ammo... It is almost certain to track you, leaving you exposed to flank assaults.

 

Grinding is painful, but with 100% crew and all modules unlocked, it's a solid performer, especially with rammer, toolbox and vents modules. For a little supplementary edge, consider consuming some foodstuff and using adrenaline in selected situations. With premium and using the occasional gold ammo, I was still making money 9 games out of 10 (XP farming). I would agree that IS-8 is not a good money maker but definitively not a drain.

 

Overall, the IS-8 good mobility, decent rate of fire and damage per minute makes it an enjoyable tank, especially when compared to the E75 and ST-1. Actually, I got so far the best win rate of all my tier 9 heavies with it (220+ battles, 56% WR). With premium ammo, it becomes a real challenger for all tier 10 tanks, except when engaging frontally the top tier german armor (but who would be THAT crazy?)

 

 



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I haved an is-8 while buyed is-7. A few days ago i realised, that it was a mistake to sell this tank...

IS-8 isthe best damager on tier 9. THe gun is awesome,have speed, but dont have armour, but its not a ,,useless tank'' if it not have an armour, armour is for ,,noobs'' :DDD



pwoah #33 Posted 17 January 2015 - 12:28 AM

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The is8 grew on me. I like it. Fast, agile, hits like Mister T.
Drive it like a medium tank. And hull down when possible.

friedeggs #34 Posted 17 January 2015 - 10:16 AM

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I got into the is8 for the first time yesterday.  Already had top gun from st1 and I free xpd the engine.  Only 3 games so far but pretty solid > 2k dmg per game.  I like the relative speed.  I miss the armour of the st1 of course but love the speed of this tank.  One thing- is the turret worth the extra 30k +?.  Gives 100 hp - big deal, but I also heard it increases the ROF.  Anyone got any stats on that and what it may do to reduce weak spots?

pwoah #35 Posted 17 January 2015 - 11:33 AM

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I dont know. I have only top gun. No tracks engine or turret. Wanted a fast grind to is7. 66% winrate. Im sure its even better with upgrades but whatever

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View Postpwoah, on 17 January 2015 - 11:33 AM, said:

I dont know. I have only top gun. No tracks engine or turret. Wanted a fast grind to is7. 66% winrate. Im sure its even better with upgrades but whatever

 

just noticed a post on thread saying no advantage to ROF.  I hope that's not true

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View Postfilipptank, on 15 January 2015 - 09:14 PM, said:

I haved an is-8 while buyed is-7. A few days ago i realised, that it was a mistake to sell this tank...

IS-8 isthe best damager on tier 9. THe gun is awesome,have speed, but dont have armour, but its not a ,,useless tank'' if it not have an armour, armour is for ,,noobs'' :DDD

 

Raawwrr!! IS-8 is awesome! You must have 100 battles in it and full upgrade it, also buy Gun Rammer, Vertical Stabilizer and Gun Laying Drive!!! After that you can easily destroy any tank in the game!!! It is extremely fast, use with engine boost, you can race with T-54!!!

 

Awesome gun, upgraded turret is MUCH BETTER! With upgraded turret aim time goes from 3.4s down to 2.9s and Rate of fire goes from 5 rpm to 5.16 rpm!

 

Always try to hide hull, go hull down, your turret front has very good armor! Everyone under-estimates IS-8, so it's very strong. Sometimes tier 10 ignores me and I quickly destroy them with the high speed and very powerful gun! You have firepower of IS-4 and speed of T-54 in one package!!! Also enough armor to face-hug tier 8 heavy like IS-3 and Tier 9 medium tank like T-54!

 


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Rof goes up?? Wtf

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View PostBoranakin, on 17 January 2015 - 12:27 PM, said:

 

Raawwrr!! IS-8 is awesome! You must have 100 battles in it and full upgrade it, also buy Gun Rammer, Vertical Stabilizer and Gun Laying Drive!!! After that you can easily destroy any tank in the game!!! It is extremely fast, use with engine boost, you can race with T-54!!!

 

Awesome gun, upgraded turret is MUCH BETTER! With upgraded turret aim time goes from 3.4s down to 2.9s and Rate of fire goes from 5 rpm to 5.16 rpm!

 

Always try to hide hull, go hull down, your turret front has very good armor! Everyone under-estimates IS-8, so it's very strong. Sometimes tier 10 ignores me and I quickly destroy them with the high speed and very powerful gun! You have firepower of IS-4 and speed of T-54 in one package!!! Also enough armor to face-hug tier 8 heavy like IS-3 and Tier 9 medium tank like T-54!

Thanks very much with the stats. Very useful



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View Postfriedeggs, on 17 January 2015 - 04:56 PM, said:

Thanks very much with the stats. Very useful

 

Haha, you're welcome, I hated IS-8 until I had about 150k xp made in it, I think it rocks with %100 crew and fully upgraded. You will love more when you learn it. 

 

Also, IS-8, when you look straight at it, has 230-240mm effective armor in it's pike-nose (lower plate is weaker, 175mm), so you can safely and easily face-hug any tier 8 if you catch them face to face. Hug an IS-3, Tiger 2 etc. if you are 1 vs. 1 with him! ALWAYS face hug a T-54, come at him with full speed 50km/h, hit him HARD for 300-400Hp damage (Ram him, you are 50 ton, he is 34 ton!), and then start face-hugging him. You don't have to face-hug only if the T-54 starts shooting HEAT (Lol, T-54 HEAT is OP). When you reload, you can go backwards to make aiming at T-54 hull easy, and then you can go back into his face when you shoot. Also be creative, pin the T54 against a wall, or against a rock, or hell, against a dead tank! Use your speed to chase him, then bully him with your weight! You push him, he can't do anything! :izmena:


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