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fivasim #21 Posted 17 February 2016 - 11:52 AM

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I met a full health SPIC in my KV-13 in black goldville. I was going at 50kmh on the asphalt. He was coming really fast too (probably more than 50kmh).

I lost 150HP, he died, no shooting involved :bajan:


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InternetEntity #22 Posted 17 February 2016 - 12:25 PM

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I gotta say, hunting down those speedy germans in my Cromwell is hilarious. As they are lighter, they accelerate better but dont have as high a top speed. So you WILL chatch them eventually and a big Vickers 75mm HV shell to the rear armour can often ignite the engine or ammo (if you get a lucky moving shot).
If this doesn't kill it, then ram them. As Cromwells are mediums so better armoured and heavier but just as fast (or faster), the result is quite ine sided...

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View PostInternetEntity, on 17 February 2016 - 02:25 PM, said:

I gotta say, hunting down those speedy germans in my Cromwell is hilarious. As they are lighter, they accelerate better but dont have as high a top speed. So you WILL chatch them eventually and a big Vickers 75mm HV shell to the rear armour can often ignite the engine or ammo (if you get a lucky moving shot).
If this doesn't kill it, then ram them. As Cromwells are mediums so better armoured and heavier but just as fast (or faster), the result is quite ine sided...

 

You won't catch the VK 28.01. It will do 76KPH all day long. But I agree the Cromwell is a worthy opponent. You are pretty much forced to bounce at least one shot to beat that reload. I have shot a few NGLs with the Panther/M10 as well, that rapid firing L/70 is perfect. 

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I find the sentinel to be quite an effective Luchs botherer. I'm going to try the A32 next and might buy back the A20. 

    

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A20 works okay

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View PostWarren5, on 17 February 2016 - 09:05 AM, said:

Dunno about shooting the NGL - but did have a head on game of chicken with a Luchs -  only problem for the Luchs was that I was in an Excelsior. :facepalm:

He couldnt pen so he figured he would ram.

 

I have to say, my Excelsior has welcomed the introduction of the German Lights with barely a shrug. Just a whole new line of tanks that can't pen it and it doesn't have to load prammo for.

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View PostCreamyWhip, on 17 February 2016 - 07:02 PM, said:

 

I have to say, my Excelsior has welcomed the introduction of the German Lights with barely a shrug. Just a whole new line of tanks that can't pen it and it doesn't have to load prammo for.

I'm an avid British tank player (as I'm British/Yorkshire myself and patriotic ;) but would you care to remind everybody here of the following:

a) Your side armour thickness

b) The AP thickness of new German auto-derpers 

c) The AP thickness of a HE round frim, say, the 122mm on the KV-1 for comparison only

 

This isn't a putdown, I love the Excelsior and own one on PC, but it REALLY isnt good for taking out anything that can circle you - like the new German  light tanks.

 



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View PostInternetEntity, on 18 February 2016 - 12:09 AM, said:

I'm an avid British tank player (as I'm British/Yorkshire myself and patriotic ;) but would you care to remind everybody here of the following:

a) Your side armour thickness

b) The AP thickness of new German auto-derpers 

c) The AP thickness of a HE round frim, say, the 122mm on the KV-1 for comparison only

 

This isn't a putdown, I love the Excelsior and own one on PC, but it REALLY isnt good for taking out anything that can circle you - like the new German  light tanks.

 

 

What can I say? I've been doing it. I'm on 70ish% WR with the Excelsior, been playing it this last week and still winning 70ish%. And that's during a bad patch playing other tanks. It's only the Excelsior and a bonkers grind with the Luchs that's kept me solvent. 

 

The rear armour helps and the Excelsior is not all that sluggish.

 

edit: I have though had a couple of games end with not enough time to cap and a comedy cartoon chase with me hauling after a Luchs/ Panther Leopard. They didn't seem in any hurry to try and circle me. 

 

edit#2: Maybe it's down to the majority of NGL players not having the first idea how to play them. I've killed loads this week. Hmmm, I think I may be with IrmaBecx on this.


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View PostAlSanchez74, on 17 February 2016 - 01:02 AM, said:

The best counters to the new German light tanks are other light or medium tanks with autoloading guns: Cruiser IV, Covenanter, T-46, A-20 etc.  They've got fast enough traverse to cope with a Luchs or Panzer IIG up close, and enough speed to chase one that's running away. Their guns are often a bit lacking in pen, but against light tanks this isn't an issue, and spraying a lot of smaller shells quickly and having some of them hit is way more effective against a small rapid target than firing one massive projectile three times per minute and missing completely. Think "anti-aircraft guns"

 

The massive alpha with long aim time from a DW2 or a Hetzer won't make a mark on a well-driven Luchs that's arriving to CoD them.

T46 with the top gun (non auto) works for me. Really quick reload and Mr. Luchs assumes long reload... Oh deary deary me, Mr. Luchs, your tank appears to have a hole in it.


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stevewindow79 #33 Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:13 AM

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Ideally, I would weld all the hatches shut on the NGLs and smear mud on the vision blocks.

 

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View Poststevewindow79, on 18 February 2016 - 04:12 AM, said:

T46 with the top gun (non auto) works for me. Really quick reload and Mr. Luchs assumes long reload... Oh deary deary me, Mr. Luchs, your tank appears to have a hole in it.

 

except that the T-46 ends up with 10 holes in it, and can't kill the luchs before it reloads.

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i guess the cromwell can still hold its own! its all about how fast you can go in reverse! :)

 

 


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View PostDassem_Ultor_, on 18 February 2016 - 11:42 PM, said:

i guess the cromwell can still hold its own! its all about how fast you can go in reverse! :)

 

 

 

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I haven't played the German Lights, but I have played the Tier 7, Type 62 quite a lot, which is faster in every way than the German Tier 7 counterpart.  My conclusions are that the lights are most deadly if they survive the first half of the battle (by running away and/or sniping).  When the reds are down to 3 tanks or spread across the battlefield then the Lights become unstoppable and deadly.  So get them early or stick together at the end.

 


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Well, I revell in the Luchs. Since it doesn't see tier VI or higher, it can in the hands of an experienced driver rape the opponents. On the other hand a welldriven Mathilda or Mathilda BP can consume the Luchs very fast. Both are very fastfiring and If you learned the trick to turn both turret and hull at the same time, even the Luchs struggles to outrun the deadlly gun.

The fact is, that in a Luchs you see an array of varioues beginners/noobs and a few sealclubbers like yourself. If they are newbies they are easy pray, no matter what tank they drive. 

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View PostFrodo_Nifinger, on 20 February 2016 - 04:59 PM, said:

Well, I revell in the Luchs. Since it doesn't see tier VI or higher, it can in the hands of an experienced driver rape the opponents. On the other hand a welldriven Mathilda or Mathilda BP can consume the Luchs very fast. Both are very fastfiring and If you learned the trick to turn both turret and hull at the same time, even the Luchs struggles to outrun the deadlly gun.

The fact is, that in a Luchs you see an array of varioues beginners/noobs and a few sealclubbers like yourself. If they are newbies they are easy pray, no matter what tank they drive. 

If they are in fact sealclubbers with 10000+ games, you are in for a fight!

I must admit, that I had not played my Mathilda since the Luchs cames out.

So to prove a point I took her for a spin. In my very first game I got lucky.

Canal map spawned at north  on the left side, that leads towards traintrack. Turned around because I dislike that route and went back across the brigde and would go right. On the brigde a PzII Ausf. G lit up on top of a hill on the left side. So I Gunned him down to 10% before he figured it smart to relocate. Two meters further and a DW2 lit up right across on the other side of the base. So he was Gunned down within an inch of his life, before someone else stole my kill. The. As Luck would have it, a Luchs came towards me down in the depression. This was my ideal chance to prove my point. I went over the egde after him, and he went for me to duke it out. I Flicked on rage and let him have it. He did what he could moving and firing ducking and weaving. But the endresult was a dead Luchs and my Mathilda still standing two thirds down on HP.


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