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[Just_merpug]

Precariat, on 21 April 2017 - 08:01 AM, said:

 

I'm really bad at COD. Something to do with coordinating moving and steering and keeping my gun on the target, I keep trying though.

 

I'm with you there. Took bloody ages before I became even vaguely competent. Still end up with the POV spiralling upwards and losing control half the time.

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Tijgerhaai_XIV, on 21 April 2017 - 05:10 AM, said:

I've only played the VK 45.03, but from the Tiger family you seem to up talk the P and down talk the Tiger. That seems odd by their stats.

And did I misread it or did you call the Death Wagon a bad tank?

 

In terms of standard pen, yes when compared to the Maus but it is still a good tank but really stocking up on prammo is an issue for some players due to costs

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mrpgilbert, on 21 April 2017 - 05:57 AM, said:

 

No, he called it worse than that. :Facepalm:

I'd leave opinions out, if I were you, OP. Stick to facts. 

All I said were penetration was bad and accuracy 

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ERWINROMMEL1915, on 21 April 2017 - 10:11 AM, said:

All I said were penetration was bad and accuracy 

 

Actually, what you said was "really 'bad' tanks such as the DW2"

That doesn't chime in any way, shape or form with the ranking data on the tank. Here you go, from both Blitzstars and wotbstars. 

 

http://www.blitzstar...%202&regions=eu

http://wotbstars.com...&lmt=100&geo=EU

 

It's a great tank. If an average player like me can get deep purple unicum WN8 in the thing and be nowhere near the top 500 rankings, then it's probably a bit OP.

[Tijgerhaai_XIV]

I don't follow - the DW2 has both good accuracy, penetration, alpha, and armour for its tier. And you did not say anything about pen just that the DW2 is really bad. Have you missed the new top 75mm gun? I thought that was added sometime ago. 

 

And for the Tiger, the P only has one piece of frontal armour so thick, and to compensate that it has significantly lower RoF for the same gun as the other Tigers and is much slower in traverse. And has a questionable turret. 

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Tijgerhaai_XIV, on 21 April 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

I don't follow - the DW2 has both good accuracy, penetration, alpha, and armour for its tier. And you did not say anything about pen just that the DW2 is really bad. Have you missed the new top 75mm gun? I thought that was added sometime ago. 

 

And for the Tiger, the P only has one piece of frontal armour so thick, and to compensate that it has significantly lower RoF for the same gun as the other Tigers and is much slower in traverse. And has a questionable turret. 

Oh i thought you meant E100..,

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Precariat, on 20 April 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

 

Ah! I haven't tried hit and run tactics with it yet. 

 

I'm not even vaguely competent yet at the COD.  Best I can manage is a drive-by shooting, Al Capone style.  

 

Be wary of trying this move on some TD's.  The SU-76 in particular spins round like a tumble drier! 

 

 

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mrpgilbert, on 21 April 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

 

Actually, what you said was "really 'bad' tanks such as the DW2"

That doesn't chime in any way, shape or form with the ranking data on the tank. Here you go, from both Blitzstars and wotbstars. 

 

http://www.blitzstar...%202&regions=eu

http://wotbstars.com...&lmt=100&geo=EU

 

It's a great tank. If an average player like me can get deep purple unicum WN8 in the thing and be nowhere near the top 500 rankings, then it's probably a bit OP.

 

Tijgerhaai_XIV, on 21 April 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

I don't follow - the DW2 has both good accuracy, penetration, alpha, and armour for its tier. And you did not say anything about pen just that the DW2 is really bad. Have you missed the new top 75mm gun? I thought that was added sometime ago. 

 

And for the Tiger, the P only has one piece of frontal armour so thick, and to compensate that it has significantly lower RoF for the same gun as the other Tigers and is much slower in traverse. And has a questionable turret. 

 

Fine I changed to 'difficult' but I thought all this time, you were talking about the E100

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Go Soviet or go home. Russian bias.

[Just_merpug]

ERWINROMMEL1915, on 21 April 2017 - 11:47 AM, said:

 

 

Fine I changed to 'difficult' but I thought all this time, you were talking about the E100

 

Of course, you have no idea, because you've never played the DW2

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mrpgilbert, on 21 April 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

 

Of course, you have no idea, because you've never played the DW2

 

Fine I accept my mistake but no need to get all over it

[Just_merpug]

ERWINROMMEL1915, on 21 April 2017 - 02:06 PM, said:

 

Fine I accept my mistake but no need to get all over it

 

As the old saw has it "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach"

[Tijgerhaai_XIV]

There is no need to get bad tempered about it, for anyone.

 

The only issue is that as far as I can see the DW2 is possibly one of the most OP tanks for its tier in game. To single it out as being 'bad' or 'difficult' casts a shadow on the whole guide, that is an impressive piece of work. Factual errors, how ever small or irrelevant, detract hugely from the guide and from a reader's confidence that the rest is worth reading.

 

And still the Tiger P to me (while I have not driven it and not seen it often on the battlefield) seems to be the weakest Tiger at Tier VII, yet you single it out for praise and seem to denigrate the Tiger. While this might be more subjective, the Tiger appears to me to have better transverse rates, DPM, and turret. The Tiger P's armour appears to be more of a gimmick, but that is only from what I have read as opposed to experienced.

 

I think the guide is very impressive, a great collection of info. The only advice I would give is to give more attention to the lower tier tanks as new players probably are not so interested in the lines VIII - X as they are in what tanks they have available to themselves in the near future.  

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Tijgerhaai_XIV, on 21 April 2017 - 02:24 PM, said:

 

I think the guide is very impressive, a great collection of info. The only advice I would give is to give more attention to the lower tier tanks as new players probably are not so interested in the lines VIII - X as they are in what tanks they have available to themselves in the near future.  

 

This ^^^^

 

For instance, I learned rather late in the day that Soviet TD's at Tier II-IV are the best at defending against COD attacks by sealclubbers in agile light tanks. -  because of their superior tranverse speed.  Prior to realising that I'd felt imperious LOL driving around in my T-18, thinking I was impervious to LT fire to my front plate.  Which is what inexperienced players tried when they met me in a T-18.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tijgerhaai_XIV, on 21 April 2017 - 02:24 PM, said:

There is no need to get bad tempered about it, for anyone.

 

The only issue is that as far as I can see the DW2 is possibly one of the most OP tanks for its tier in game. To single it out as being 'bad' or 'difficult' casts a shadow on the whole guide, that is an impressive piece of work. Factual errors, how ever small or irrelevant, detract hugely from the guide and from a reader's confidence that the rest is worth reading.

 

And still the Tiger P to me (while I have not driven it and not seen it often on the battlefield) seems to be the weakest Tiger at Tier VII, yet you single it out for praise and seem to denigrate the Tiger. While this might be more subjective, the Tiger appears to me to have better transverse rates, DPM, and turret. The Tiger P's armour appears to be more of a gimmick, but that is only from what I have read as opposed to experienced.

 

I think the guide is very impressive, a great collection of info. The only advice I would give is to give more attention to the lower tier tanks as new players probably are not so interested in the lines VIII - X as they are in what tanks they have available to themselves in the near future.  

 

I can understand, I will talk more on the tiger vs tiger p

To avoid anymore squabbles, I've taken out the DW2 thing

 

Edited by ERWINROMMEL1915, 21 April 2017 - 03:22 PM.

[Tijgerhaai_XIV]

Oh and sorry if my referring to the DW2 as the Death Wagon caused confusion. I should know better than to use nicknames as there are so many different ones.

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ERWINROMMEL1915, on 20 April 2017 - 12:41 AM, said:

As I clarified above, I posted here as well for Newbies, but If I'm in the wrong, take out one thread

 

THIS IS NOT INTENTIONAL SPAMMING

 

It's fine, you can keep both threads I think this guide is very useful and well done! Having a copy in the Newcomers' section won't hurt.

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Precariat, on 21 April 2017 - 11:01 AM, said:

 

I'm really bad at COD. Something to do with coordinating moving and steering and keeping my gun on the target, I keep trying though.

Is your auto aim enabled ?

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CradleOfDeath, on 15 June 2017 - 02:35 PM, said:

Is your auto aim enabled ?

 

I don't really use auto aim. I am improving at COD though, just needs practice. Also situational awarness, not running up hills and into rocks/walls.