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Calculator for Spare Parts grind (Update 4.0)

Update 3.8 PAY-TO-WIN MONEY GRAB Update 4.0

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jylpah #1 Posted 28 April 2017 - 09:06 AM

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Hi folks, 

 

I am outraged about the update 3.8 Equipment change. I find the biggest issue is to making the game a PAY-TO-WIN by forcing people to go through endless Spare Part grind ... OR PAY GOLD. As if the difference between experienced players and newcomers would not be big enough already.

 

I have created a Google Sheets to help you to estimate how long does it take to equip a tank based on how many missions you do per day, how many battles you play and what is your WR. 

 

UPDATED 2017-07-27 to incorporate update 4.0 chests and 3.10 SP fix

 

THE LINK. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MBoRNHBVlnTRZ07ry1amuz-Gxfe_OEgfL7Tg-uvfES8/edit?usp=sharing

 

Please either:

1) Copy the sheet to your own Google Drive (File -> Make a Copy)  OR

2) Download it as Excel sheet (File -> Download as) 

 

If it took me ~ 3 days (x 20 battles) to grind silver for a tier X tank equipment, it will take me 17 days to grind the Spare Parts for a tier X tank

 

Pls notice that I have used the maximum value for tier X missions and the bottom value for tier I missions, but in reality the average tier X missions yields less SP. So this formula is too optimistic. Maybe 10-20%. 

 

 


Edited by jylpah, 27 July 2017 - 03:11 PM.


jylpah #2 Posted 28 April 2017 - 09:31 AM

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I also updated the calculator to estimate the Spare Parts compensation. It seems I would get from 6500 battles and 6.5 average tier enough SP to fully equip 2.2 Tier VIII tanks. This is shameless greediness, by WG. 

Sir_Bobby #3 Posted 28 April 2017 - 10:03 AM

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I updated the sheet with my info too.

 

The good news is that I should get enough free spare parts to equip my tier Xs and my precious T34 credit grinder straight away (well, in 24 days time).

 

The bad news is that I will be left with a 27m SP deficit (!?!) to equip my whole garage. Assuming my current winrate, that I play the same average tier, and that I complete a mission every 20 games or so, this will only take about 130,000 battles to accumulate.

 

So say hello to a much smaller garage I guess.  And selling the tanks I can't be bothered to equip should net me enough credits to never need to buy any ever again.  So congrats WG, I will spend less and enjoy the game less too.  A win-win for both parties.

 



Extra_Salty #4 Posted 28 April 2017 - 01:30 PM

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Nice excel, any idea how equipment unlock timers will act through tiers, linear or exponential increase of time.

 

So with 3.8 missions will became another timer to slow down grinding tank to max potential unless player likes to bleed some gold to reset missions?


Edited by VarpusenI, 28 April 2017 - 01:47 PM.


Pantie_Bandit #5 Posted 28 April 2017 - 01:32 PM

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I see my Blitz days coming to an end... Hello Life! I've missed you!

jylpah #6 Posted 28 April 2017 - 02:27 PM

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View PostVarpusenI, on 28 April 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

Nice excel, any idea how equipment unlock timers will act through tiers, linear or exponential increase of time.

 

So with 3.8 missions will became another timer to slow down grinding tank to max potential unless player likes to bleed some gold to reset missions?

 

I would say that this is yet another way to force-feed missions into your throat. Enjoy Supremacy! FFS, how incompetent they can be. 

stubbo66 #7 Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:27 PM

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Don't forget you only get spare parts from 50% of missions as well

Extra_Salty #8 Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:43 PM

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"Spare Parts have a 50% chance of dropping as rewards for random and tournament battles:
   For a victory: 55–231 (minimum for Tier I — maximum for Tier X)
   For a loss: 28–116 (minimum for Tier I — maximum for Tier X)

Starting from version 3.8, Spare Parts will also be included in rewards for completing missions. Depending on the vehicle tier and mission complexity, you will earn 430–3,100 for one mission."

 

I hope mission drop rate will be 100%

 


Edited by VarpusenI, 28 April 2017 - 05:55 PM.


stubbo66 #9 Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:49 PM

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I'm OK with not getting our tanks back 100% equiped, we never had all the equipment before so to expect to be able to apply it all is not really fair and gives a lot of scope to develop the tanks.

 

However, to remove equipment and then not give you the remuneration to get that same equipment back isn't right.

 

If they remove the tier system and then activate the same items that were previously activated (or nearest equivalent) and then compensated for any nerfing then we'd end up with the same as we had now and the option to improve the tanks even further.

 

It wouldn't be that hard to do, and would be a reasonable way forward I think.

 

An expectation of a fully equiped tank is not realistic I don't think, but a comparably equipped tank would be fair.



TwistedTransistor #10 Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:49 PM

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View PostPantie_Bandit, on 28 April 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:

I see my Blitz days coming to an end... Hello Life! I've missed you!

Mine too. I will be able to equip only 4 tanks. Sorry, no... I will leave. 



jylpah #11 Posted 29 April 2017 - 01:14 AM

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View Poststubbo66, on 29 April 2017 - 01:49 AM, said:

I'm OK with not getting our tanks back 100% equiped, we never had all the equipment before so to expect to be able to apply it all is not really fair and gives a lot of scope to develop the tanks.

 

However, to remove equipment and then not give you the remuneration to get that same equipment back isn't right.

 

You will get your tanks back roughly 14-20% depending how many battles you have. Just the equipment reimbursement is 12%. On top of that comes compensation based on battles played.  



jylpah #12 Posted 29 April 2017 - 01:15 AM

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View PostTwistedTransistor, on 29 April 2017 - 01:49 AM, said:

Mine too. I will be able to equip only 4 tanks. Sorry, no... I will leave. 

 

I think you missed the compensation from existing equipment. That is 12% of the tanks you have assuming those are fully equipped. on top of that you get the battle count compensation that is roughly 4 tier VIII tanks with your battle count. 

TwistedTransistor #13 Posted 29 April 2017 - 09:40 AM

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View Postjylpah, on 29 April 2017 - 01:15 AM, said:

 

I think you missed the compensation from existing equipment. That is 12% of the tanks you have assuming those are fully equipped. on top of that you get the battle count compensation that is roughly 4 tier VIII tanks with your battle count. 

 

yes but this gives me another 140k parts ... which is as good as nothing. Therefore i'm not going to play (and pay) after the 3.8 will be rolled out.

_Red_Shirt_ #14 Posted 29 April 2017 - 01:43 PM

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View PostVarpusenI, on 28 April 2017 - 05:43 PM, said:

I hope mission drop rate will be 100%

 

It will... for a while.

But then it will be stopped because during the next event, "Snipe Hunt", missions will reward you the invaluable Fowl Droppings, which will be necessary, together with Eggshells, to obtain puce and maroon Rain Checks. Three puce Rain Checks will provide a So-So Carton, which may contain credits, boosters, or a moldy used tissue. Four maroon Rain Checks will get you a Craptastic Carton instead, which may contain more credits, more boosters, or one of the three phantasy tanks of the event: the Famous Grouse Mk.II, the Wild Turkey Type 1a, or the Whisky Jack XXVIII.

But don't worry, you will still be able to convert Fowl Droppings into Spare Parts... for gold.

 



TyP6oCJIuB #15 Posted 29 April 2017 - 02:46 PM

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View Postjylpah, on 29 April 2017 - 01:14 AM, said:

 

You will get your tanks back roughly 14-20% depending how many battles you have. Just the equipment reimbursement is 12%. On top of that comes compensation based on battles played.  

 

I'll keep my drac :sceptic: everything else will be converted to prammo.

1OOJA #16 Posted 30 April 2017 - 05:40 AM

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I'm so lucky that not all of us are lazy tankers just like me, thank you for making my life easier and making this guide jylpah!!

 

View PostAce_Camper, on 29 April 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

 

I'll keep my drac :sceptic: everything else will be converted to prammo.

 

This seems as the best thing to do when the update drops.

I'll personally seal club and destroy as much games as I can (say hello to my little Pz. IIJ :child::P) and then maybe leave the game in a few months or so.

 



UnknownCowman #17 Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:27 PM

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Yes, after 3.8 is installed I'll buy my T-46, T82 and my A-20 back again and I'll equip my Pz. II J and Pz. B2 and prevent new players from having fun! Wargaming totally has psychical problems by now and needs a break before they release Tier XI modern tanks or buff the Dracula to make it undefeatable



REAllyNot #18 Posted 01 May 2017 - 09:35 PM

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View Poststubbo66, on 28 April 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

we never had all the equipment before

 

Some of us in that we you used did actually have all the equipment on all tanks.

McDookus #19 Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:58 AM

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Ffs. Just worked out that i wont even be able to fully equip all my tier x tanks. Nevermind the 50 premium vehicles that i have paid real world money for. There is no way i would have bought so many premium vehicles if i had known that i wouldnt be able to fully equip them. I feel like i am about to be mugged off. Shame on you wargaming


Nerijus_z #20 Posted 02 May 2017 - 09:15 AM

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View PostMcDookus, on 02 May 2017 - 04:58 AM, said:

Ffs. Just worked out that i wont even be able to fully equip all my tier x tanks. Nevermind the 50 premium vehicles that i have paid real world money for. There is no way i would have bought so many premium vehicles if i had known that i wouldnt be able to fully equip them. I feel like i am about to be mugged off. Shame on you wargaming

Do not worry mate, WG thought about you. As I know there will be posibillity to buy spare parts for real money. You had money to buy 50 premium tanks, so feom 3.8 you will have where to spend big amount of money again, is it not great? :D






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