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Zatal #1 Posted 12 August 2017 - 04:14 PM

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Hi!

 

Why bot's are allowed to play this game? When a player is not playing his round give him 3h ban. If that happens again double ban time every time that happens. (Cooldown 1 ban lvl/day?)

 

If player is often only starting combat and not playing it, just remove their accounts. (Ban lvl 10 or so.)

 

Why? In most battles -1 tank means that your team loses the fight. And those who try to battle are already overpowered because of the bot player.

 

Even if player quits when fight looks like lost should be punishable by 1h ban. It is really annoying when you realize that you're playing alone and rest of the team has already logged out.

 

Of course, there are real life situations when you have to do something else than play. But that is just ruining the gaming experience for rest of the team. On the other side it's not fun to win battle when enemy has bots, because it's not your skill that won the game.



petes85 #2 Posted 12 August 2017 - 05:58 PM

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Sooo how many bans there would Be in 1 Day ???? How many 1 hour bans you would have ???? Your Ban hammer idea needs More improvement

CradleOfDeath #3 Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:01 PM

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10 inactivity in battle votes = 2 days ban.
30 inactivity votes = 30 days ban.
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petes85 #4 Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:28 PM

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One month sounds kinda harsh and i think it would decreace player population. WG might Not agree

Edited by petes85, 12 August 2017 - 06:41 PM.


CradleOfDeath #5 Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:32 PM

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Needs to be harsh, no need to be reasonable with serial AFKers. These dim wits afk thier way to higher tiers.

Edited by CradleOfDeath, 12 August 2017 - 06:45 PM.

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petes85 #6 Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:43 PM

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View PostCradleOfDeath, on 12 August 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

Needs to harsh, no need to be reasonable with serial AFKers. These dim wits afk thier way to higher tiers.

True but Ban a paying customer, would you do that ? I'm Not taking their side just wondering. Taking few days off Blitz. You really should try that


Edited by petes85, 12 August 2017 - 06:44 PM.


CradleOfDeath #7 Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:45 PM

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Took 5 days off last week nothing changed in fact this weekend has been horrible.
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VarpusenI #8 Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:03 PM

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1st step could be reducing credit, XP and SP earnings down to zero for bots + missions should not be possible to complete by botting

Black__Legion #9 Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:53 PM

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The game API already allows for detection of AFK player (not the clan) and "bots".  Zero damage plus zero shots fired plus zero distance travelled equals AFK.  I got kids, and a wife and a real life, but I very seldom go afk but it happens.  I don't think I should live in fear of a ban because someone knocked on the door just after I pressed battle, but I should not be made to suffer a disadvantage because my teams tier IX heavy is afk-ing his way to a tier X.

 

The MH system could help combat this but if you bring in a system that auto bans for x many inactive in battle down votes, well then you get the trolls that will down vote just to get someone banned.  No matter how good or bad you did.  Besides I have seen players with 40 + downvotes and still be trollin, so it's very clear the idea of "self policing" with the MH system was either A. Never an idea in the first place or B. Doesn't work.

 

The real answer is a combination of the MH system, an automatic report of a player with an excess of down votes, and WG actually giving a damn.


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Zatal #10 Posted 12 August 2017 - 10:01 PM

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Ban systems banning times: 3h, 6h, 12h, 24h, ... 1 month -> remove account.

And also after ban, if you play ok, then ban lvl drops by 1 every single day. Like ban of 12h -> after ban time good gaming time is 24h -> next possible ban shifts to 6h... -> 24h good gaming -> possible ban is only 3h...

 

So system is always balancing itself. And only few bots are removed from game after all.

 

Bots have way too much weight in current system 1/7th of team strength. And sometimes even top tiers are bots, so autowin for enemy.

 

Actually solution against deserters could be not allowing changing tank before your last tank's battle is over or tank is destroyed. But that's only for those who starts combat and leaves before its end.



Blue_Snail #11 Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:42 PM

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I know in WoT, if you try to exit a battle before you are dead, you are given a stern looking warning.

I don't know the penalty for repeatedly exiting a battle, but I am sure they have implemented one.



Birdistheword15 #12 Posted 13 August 2017 - 12:01 AM

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They should have a credit reduction based on shots fired and damage dealt. 

petes85 #13 Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:02 AM

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View PostCradleOfDeath, on 12 August 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

Took 5 days off last week nothing changed in fact this weekend has been horrible.

Sounds Bad. My point to Ban hammering people is:  bans are irrelevant cause you can Create another account and continue playing game. So you got 1 month ban, no biggies you just change account and your good to go. 


Edited by petes85, 13 August 2017 - 08:09 AM.


CradleOfDeath #14 Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:16 AM

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View Postpetes85, on 13 August 2017 - 11:02 AM, said:

Sounds Bad. My point to Ban hammering people is:  bans are irrelevant cause you can Create another account and continue playing game. So you got 1 month ban, no biggies you just change account and your good to go. 

 

Ban them anyway because a person who likes to serial AFK wouldn't go through the effort to make another account to do the same plus all his progress is gone.
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petes85 #15 Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:24 AM

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View PostCradleOfDeath, on 13 August 2017 - 10:16 AM, said:

 

Ban them anyway because a person who likes to serial AFK wouldn't go through the effort to make another account to do the same plus all his progress is gone.

In a few words you want to resrict these people of having fun. 



MustaKustaa #16 Posted 13 August 2017 - 10:29 PM

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I just am more than curious.. what are these mythical bots I keep hearing of? When and where can I see one?

I see a lot of bad playing going on.. And OP bots are another thing that puzzles me. How, what, where, when?


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Revda1966 #17 Posted 13 August 2017 - 10:37 PM

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View PostZatal, on 12 August 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

Hi!

 

Why bot's are allowed to play this game? When a player is not playing his round give him 3h ban. If that happens again double ban time every time that happens. (Cooldown 1 ban lvl/day?)

 

If player is often only starting combat and not playing it, just remove their accounts. (Ban lvl 10 or so.)

 

Why? In most battles -1 tank means that your team loses the fight. And those who try to battle are already overpowered because of the bot player.

 

Even if player quits when fight looks like lost should be punishable by 1h ban. It is really annoying when you realize that you're playing alone and rest of the team has already logged out.

 

Of course, there are real life situations when you have to do something else than play. But that is just ruining the gaming experience for rest of the team. On the other side it's not fun to win battle when enemy has bots, because it's not your skill that won the game.

 

I don't think your taking into account bad connections, I got six inactive complaints today, 3 off one game, I participated in every game I start but I get regular high ping and lag where my shot seems to be 4 or 5 seconds behind the gameplay resulting in a mis or I have to log out and back in which takes 30 to 50 seconds  - it really hacks me off then a complaint to boot !

 

afk is not always deliberate 

 



VonPottypoop #18 Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:00 PM

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View PostCradleOfDeath, on 12 August 2017 - 06:32 PM, said:

Needs to be harsh, no need to be reasonable with serial AFKers. These dim wits afk thier way to higher tiers.

 

As most of us are aware the system of votes is routinely abused so therefore it would have to be done purely on server stats to make it fair, yes we all have to answer the door or telephone etc plus some regions have varying degrees of internet connection so it would have to be Wargaming analysis as opposed to red thumbing.
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lordwulfhere #19 Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:00 AM

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View PostCradleOfDeath, on 12 August 2017 - 06:01 PM, said:

10 inactivity in battle votes = 2 days ban.
30 inactivity votes = 30 days ban.

 

i have a slight issue with this and thats the morons who like to put in false inactivity thumbs down.

ninjagalles #20 Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:02 PM

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View PostCradleOfDeath, on 12 August 2017 - 06:01 PM, said:

10 inactivity in battle votes = 2 days ban.
30 inactivity votes = 30 days ban.

 

Are you talkin` about MH votes???? Hope not, because is too abusive. I was camping in my 704, done over 5K dmg, others under 1K, unfortunately we lost, and I get (as I remember) 2x inactivity in battle and 1x unsporting behavior. That's why I think this votes are not always credible.





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