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4lter #21 Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:10 PM

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View Postsupremeomega, on 11 September 2017 - 11:57 AM, said:

Mhm so after getting bored Ive been away for more than a year and decided to give Grille line a go when saw it couple days ago. Is it still worth it and should i continue grinding freaking Emil or did it get hit too hard? Also the only tanks Ive been interested in are Is4 and T62, have they received any nerfs/buffs in this past year? Im out of the loop, thanks.

Grille line still features a very unique gameplay, so I think its worth it. The nerf has a reason... Most of top 30 players in missile exercise used grille for 5k average damage. Its also the most common td in CW.

 

All meds have been nerfed very hard earlier this year, check penetration values... T62A might become slightly better with this update though.

 

IS4 is quite strong, I dont remember major tweaks.



penguinkiller #22 Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:28 PM

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The jadgtiger 8,8 getting a 105mm gun? I though it was called the 88 jadgtiger because of the gun.Can i get a name change on my jadgtiger so that is now the jadgtiger 10.5cm? could it not have gotten a similar buff to the E25 with a pen buff? 

 

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Y0_L0 #23 Posted 11 September 2017 - 01:05 PM

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About the AMX 50b and T 57 Heavy

I initially misinterpreted the changes made to the Reload as a dpm nerf and since others may have done the same i will post my calculations for past and future dpm (damage per minute) below:

T57 Heavy:

4.19:       20,13 + 3,33 x 2 = 26,79 | 400 x 3 / 26,79 x 60 = 2 688 dpm

4.20:       22,05 + 2,5 x 2 = 25,13   | 400 x 3 / 25,13 x 60 = 2 865 dpm

=> T57 Heavy will have 200 more dpm in the future

AMX 50b:

4.19:       24,30 + 3,33 x 2 = 30,96 | 400 x 3 / 30,96 x 60 = 2 326 dpm
4.20:       21,39 + 3,00 x 2 = 27,39 | 400 x 3 / 27,39 x 60 = 2 629 dpm

=> AMX 50b will have 300 more dpm in the future

Mabe this will help some of you understand the changes better


Edited by Y0_L0, 11 September 2017 - 01:08 PM.


__Sam1971__ #24 Posted 11 September 2017 - 06:18 PM

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For the Grille: RIP with honor.

 

Why do you don't like French Tank?

They are always less effective than the others, Amx 50B, Foch 155, and perhaps future line...

Do you thinking at yours costumer who paid and used spare part on tank which become useless!!!!!!

it is normal or fairly? 

Do you thinking at the player who buy a camo 2840 gold and 2 update later the tank are Nerf!!!

You buff T62A (wouah), but don't forget STB-1.... and respect for the buff of Obj 268 really necessary.

 

Next update pleased.

 

 



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WTF I get the WT Auf PZVI yesterday and it's nerfed today. Completely fkd over by wargaming and to top it all the tier X is nerfed too!! Thanks for nothing!!! Meanwhile the premium tanks get a buff...I've seen all this before In The PC version and Warships. Very disappointing. I'd like all my hard won experience (I'm a crap player so believe me I've ground this one out) credited back as free experience along with my credits for all the German td's ive played to get here. That would be fair!

 

just been playing and yup it's nearly unplayable now!


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View PostSoftCushions, on 11 September 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

WTF I get the WT Auf PZVI yesterday and it's nerfed today. Completely fkd over by wargaming and to top it all the tier X is nerfed too!! Thanks for nothing!!! Meanwhile the premium tanks get a buff...I've seen all this before In The PC version and Warships. Very disappointing. I'd like all my hard won experience (I'm a crap player so believe me I've ground this one out) credited back as free experience along with my credits for all the German td's ive played to get here. That would be fair!

 

just been playing and yup it's nearly unplayable now!

It hasn't happened yet.


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4lter #27 Posted 12 September 2017 - 05:04 AM

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View PostSoftCushions, on 11 September 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

WTF I get the WT Auf PZVI yesterday and it's nerfed today.  [...]

just been playing and yup it's nearly unplayable now!

 

In this particular case its solely you... The nerf isnt even active yet ;)



Zloydd #28 Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:06 AM

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View Post__Sam1971__, on 11 September 2017 - 06:18 PM, said:

For the Grille: RIP with honor.

 

Why do you don't like French Tank?

They are always less effective than the others, Amx 50B, Foch 155, and perhaps future line...

Do you thinking at yours costumer who paid and used spare part on tank which become useless!!!!!!

it is normal or fairly? 

Do you thinking at the player who buy a camo 2840 gold and 2 update later the tank are Nerf!!!

You buff T62A (wouah), but don't forget STB-1.... and respect for the buff of Obj 268 really necessary.

 

Next update pleased.

 

 

 

The Grille 15 has excellent dynamics and convenient gun that allows it to roll with medium tanks on the front line and even trade its HP due to high firepower, while good gun depression angles allow it to roll from behind the hills. Introducing current changes, we shift its gameplay role from the "glass medium tank" to "dynamic TD" that fights on the second line of attack. Considering the cabin, it's the old bug of all three vehicles, and it was fixed.

 

French tank's are very hard for balance.

 

Foch 155 is good now. I see statistics on this TD. We will improve 50B in 4.2. And we will watch the Bat in 4.2 and next updates. If we see that Bat is not good, we will improve him.



petes85 #29 Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:08 AM

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So Buff t62a and nerf grill makes a balance. I just don't get it.

polo_loco #30 Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:13 AM

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T95 
  • Hull armor was decreased from 152 to 133 mm:
    • Upper side armor was decreased from 64 to 51 mm
    • Armor of track side skirts was decreased from 100 to 51 mm
  • Armor of the cupolas was decreased from 152 to 133 mm

Hahaahaha. OMG! Please, introduce that genius who has this idea! T95 has 0 (ZERO) mobility and speed, it is no chance to defend against the attack of meds or fast heavies except armor. It is just hardly moving steel bunker, and you took its only protection? Don't be shy, put a carton box on it, with max speed 17 km/h (oh, you call it "buffed dynamics") it will be fun for all users. Yes, I'm sure you will compensate it with nice ninjasuperherolaserflyingshittank for a incredible, prestigious and fascinating price of 199,99$ BUY IT NOW! BUY IT NOW!. Soooo pathetic. I would tell you Wargaming what you can do with your update and ideas, but I'm sure, there is no more space for it. Greetings.


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KAS_118 #31 Posted 12 September 2017 - 10:13 AM

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Why hasn't the Excelsior STILL not been provided with the AP Pen increase that the T-14 and the Matilda IV received.

 

Why hasn't the Matilda II received a turret traverse buff.

 

What has happened to the 2nd Line of British Mediums?



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View PostKAS_118, on 12 September 2017 - 10:13 AM, said:

Why hasn't the Excelsior STILL not been provided with the AP Pen increase that the T-14 and the Matilda IV received.

 

Why hasn't the Matilda II received a turret traverse buff.

 

What has happened to the 2nd Line of British Mediums?

 

We will change low lvl tank's in the future.

 

Yes, we plan British medium  very soon



Titus_Scato #33 Posted 12 September 2017 - 11:10 AM

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Not happy with WG giving the Jagdtiger 8,8 a new 10.5 cm gun that it never had historically.

 

It would have been better to buff its base rate of fire by 2 rounds per minute, taking it to 14.77 RoF without any equipment or provisions - and secondly to give it the same 230% credit coefficient as the Angry Connor.

 

Then the Jagdtiger 8,8 would have fired shells almost as fast as an AT15A, and with the credit earning boost, it could have fired a lot of premium APCR ammo without losing many credits, thus solving its penetration problem.  With an extra 2 rounds per minute, the Jagdtiger 8,8 would have the same DPM with APCR that it had before APCR alpha damage was reduced by 15%.


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GrindelisApex #34 Posted 12 September 2017 - 01:31 PM

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I agree with Titus, Jagdtiger 8.8 should've gotten a dpm and credit buff instead of a weird 10,5cm.

Still... looks like it's same to leave t49, amx50 100 and grille in the garage.

When are we expected to have the lekpz m41? I think it's the only bulldog I ever want in my life...


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View PostKAS_118, on 12 September 2017 - 10:13 AM, said:

Why hasn't the Excelsior STILL not been provided with the AP Pen increase that the T-14 and the Matilda IV received.

 

Why hasn't the Matilda II received a turret traverse buff.

 

What has happened to the 2nd Line of British Mediums?

 

What do you mean by 2nd line of British mediums?

 



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I hope some wargaming guy is reading this message. First of all i just want to say never get out of the historical tank idea. 

2. WHY did you decrease armor on T95 ?!?!?!! It's got no mobility let it at least have some epic armor!! I mean please you're ruining the game! T95 will not be a T95 any more!! PLEASE CHANGE THAT



Ted57_55 #37 Posted 12 September 2017 - 03:43 PM

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Whilst I'm upset about the T95, that's only because I only just grinded it. However, it is a ridiculously tough target at tier 9 now, particularly after the prem ammo nerf. I suspect AT5 will get nerfed soon as well, which will also be a shame.


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I did not notice the dominance of German TDs in the game, do not see any reason why they will be so cripled, same with t95


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View Postsami19842, on 12 September 2017 - 03:49 PM, said:

 

What do you mean by 2nd line of British mediums?

 

Look up WoT.

British tech tree has a 2nd line with the early Cruiser models and Valentine at tier 2-4, Sherman and the Firefly as tier5-6 and there it connects with the glass cannon TD line which at tier7-8 are the amazing Cromwell derivatives(those two... I want them so badly lmao)


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View PostZloydd, on 11 September 2017 - 10:37 AM, said:

The AMX 50 100 had its gun buffed pretty well in terms of average damage and armor penetration. Four shells make it overpowered. Also, we want to adjust all top autoloaders in the branch to one pattern Three shells and long reloading time, so that players start getting used to this from Tier VIII. Reduced durability is a balance change. Now the tank won't trade its HP boldly, and will start play more carefully.

 

4 shells make AMX 50 100 unique and interesting to play ... diversity is good!   

 

https://wotblitz.eu/en/news/pc-browser/generalnews/bat-chat-way/

 At Tier IX, there is the Bat.-Châtillon 25 t AP featuring two guns of almost equal value. The stock gun holds 4 shells, and the top one — 3 shells.

 

At least be consistent ...


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