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Should WG move Helsing TD to the VIII tier?

  1. Yes (25 votes [38.46%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 38.46%

  2. No (28 votes [43.08%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 43.08%

  3. IDK (5 votes [7.69%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  4. I have Helsing and I like it (7 votes [10.77%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.77%

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polo_loco #1 Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:59 AM

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Helsing is a totally overpowered td (?????) in the game. High mobility, strong gun and armor. It is like a wolf among the sheeps on VII tier. When you play 6t tank vs Helsing, u have no chance to win. People can do with it over 4k dmg in one battle. Try to do it with st. Emil, Jpanther, at7 or t25. Despite the mobility and turret. It works and shoots like 8 tier tank. Should WG change the class of this "tank"?

petes85 #2 Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:19 AM

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Remove Helsing and Dracula from wotb

reekoiler #3 Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:27 AM

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A good start would be to define what a Helsing is.   Is it a TD, a medium or (per Bushka IIRC) a heavy?

 

The annoying thing about this tank, aside from its jarringly unrealistic appearance, is that I struggled to play it well and also struggle to play well against it.   I voted it up a tier out of sheer spite.


Knickerson, my apologies.

Ted57_55 #4 Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:40 AM

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helsing is fine in tier 7, which is a mess of a tier anyway.

the real issue is that the next Halloween grind is only a month away, so tier 7 will get wrecked by something else, just as the T49A mess finishes. Ahh, bliss..



hoihaguy #5 Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:11 AM

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it cant be in tier 9. the gun as it is now is good in tier 7 but will be crapin tier 8. Also, the problem wth helsings is the high number of unicums playing them.

there's only one balance WG cares about

its their bank account balance


loopyludo #6 Posted 13 September 2017 - 12:28 PM

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Just leave the Helsing well alone, it is my go to tank for events and credits, just glad I ground that instead of the drac.

Titus_Scato #7 Posted 13 September 2017 - 01:04 PM

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Nerf its credit making ability (just as was done to the Pzkpfw IV Anko which used to make mountains of credits when first available).

 

Then it will be less popular.



Warren5 #8 Posted 13 September 2017 - 02:57 PM

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The ones who moan are the very ones who dont have it 


 


InternetEntity #9 Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:21 PM

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View PostWarren5, on 13 September 2017 - 02:57 PM, said:

The ones who moan are the very ones who dont have it 

 

I have it.

My highest win rate tank (with over 100 battles officially, but higher than anything I won/owned with more than 10 battles really) by a significant margin. 

 

Problem is, I don't need to try with it. Short of just reversing at the reds never firing the gun (losing on purpose) it is impossible for at least a good player to do badly in one.

I just cannot bring myself to play it often because it will just get a higher and higher win rate and I will never have a chance of beating my own top spot with a respectabke tank.

 

Helsing is very overpowered. Dracula is quite darn overpowered - especially compared to the CDC with has very similar is not worse stats a tier higher...

I'd happily see them moved up to tier 8 with a slight health and penetration buff each. 

 



Dassem_ #10 Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:31 PM

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NO!

 

Its the most OP tank in game, but the day they nerf a premium tank is the day i stop buying premium tanks.


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Tijgerhaai_XIV #11 Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:49 PM

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I'd prefer knowing that I was paying towards a balanced game than to buy something that makes  the game worse for every one. I simply do not understand why players' money should be inviolate but their time, effort, hopes, blood, sweat and tears means nothing.

 


Dassem_ #12 Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:54 PM

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View PostTijgerhaai_XIV, on 13 September 2017 - 04:49 PM, said:

I'd prefer knowing that I was paying towards a balanced game than to buy something that makes the game worse for every one. I simply do not understand why players' money should be inviolate but their time, effort, hopes, blood, sweat and tears means nothing.

 

just look at the latest patch, and see WGs idead of balancing. Id not pay a single $ for a tank that could be submitted to their judgement.

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Psychovadge #13 Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:19 PM

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It's a superb tank and op for its tier.....but I love it so don't nerf it please :)

InternetEntity #14 Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:20 PM

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View PostDassem_, on 13 September 2017 - 03:31 PM, said:

NO!

 

Its the most OP tank in game, but the day they nerf a premium tank is the day i stop buying premium tanks.

 

You don't have to nerf it. Just improve it to the right level. Would you object to a free higher tier tank (from the nooby point of view of bigger number=better) and increased profitability that is properly balanced for said tier? 

 

Hell, you could even call it a new tank even. You just removed one from the game and compensated those who had one with a new tank.

 

Better still, limit this to event and reward tanks. I mean, WG messed around with the Defender for a good few updates without ever publishing anything...


Edited by InternetEntity, 13 September 2017 - 04:23 PM.


harrier_77 #15 Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:38 PM

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Most peeps went for dracula in the event, helsing turned out to be a superb surprise. If uve got it and can play it, it's awesome. Leave it well alone, some of us went through the grind to get it...in other words 'we earned it'...now we reap what was sown.

Also it does not perform well against tier8 heavies...therefore it's not a capable t8 vehicle.


Edited by harrier_77, 13 September 2017 - 04:40 PM.

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Epicone1999 #16 Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:44 PM

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Ask Titus...

"I'll guarantee all players on here get called a noob, get told to delete the game, etc. etc. even when carrying the team because some people just expect you to be mind readers and to support their yolo charge, their side on defensive position and need someone else to blame for their poor performance." -Stubbo66

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Acids_Burn #17 Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:45 PM

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View Postharrier_77, on 13 September 2017 - 06:38 PM, said:

Most peeps went for dracula in the event, helsing turned out to be a superb surprise. If uve got it and can play it, it's awesome. Leave it well alone, some of us went through the grind to get it...in other words 'we earned it'...now we reap what was sown.

Also it does not perform well against tier8 heavies...therefore it's not a capable t8 vehicle.

And some of us paid good money for it so we can have an "early start". Leave Hellsing alone.


 I do know that the way i express myself to some, if not most, people sound a bit too...aggressive? salty? rude?... but this is the way i speak and the way my thought train rolls...so...yeah...i'm not trying to insult anyone or pick up any fights.

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jackalwolf_25052878 #18 Posted 13 September 2017 - 05:40 PM

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Why do people complain about the helsing because 

1, THEY DO NOT HAVE IT 

2, they screwed up the event and got neither of them and they feel bitter about it

3, they chose the Dracula instead and regretted it

4, they simply do not know how to kill it 

LIKE IT, DON'T LIKE IT, LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT

JUST STOP BLOODY GOING ON ABOUT IT.

and yes I have the helsing 



onlypainhurts #19 Posted 13 September 2017 - 05:49 PM

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View PostInternetEntity, on 13 September 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

 

You don't have to nerf it. Just improve it to the right level. Would you object to a free higher tier tank (from the nooby point of view of bigger number=better) and increased profitability that is properly balanced for said tier? 

 

Hell, you could even call it a new tank even. You just removed one from the game and compensated those who had one with a new tank.

 

Better still, limit this to event and reward tanks. I mean, WG messed around with the Defender for a good few updates without ever publishing anything...

 

Tier 8 would be way too large of a nerf.  Against tier 9's it doesn't have anywhere near enough penetration.   It wouldn't improve it at all.  


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onlypainhurts #20 Posted 13 September 2017 - 05:56 PM

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View Postreekoiler, on 13 September 2017 - 11:27 AM, said:

A good start would be to define what a Helsing is.   Is it a TD, a medium or (per Bushka IIRC) a heavy?

 

The annoying thing about this tank, aside from its jarringly unrealistic appearance, is that I struggled to play it well and also struggle to play well against it.   I voted it up a tier out of sheer spite.

 

​why does it matter what it's defined as?   The idea that a tank must fit some sort of preconceived definition would homogenize gameplay.   Tds are probably the most diverse class and that's good, do you play your t67 the same ar your AT2?

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