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ObeseRat_EU #1 Posted 19 October 2017 - 11:55 AM

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Does spaced armor negate HE shell splash damage or just reduce it?

IrmaBecx #2 Posted 19 October 2017 - 03:13 PM

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View PostObeseRat_EU, on 19 October 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

Does spaced armor negate HE shell splash damage or just reduce it?

 

It just reduces it, as far as I'm aware. Spaced armour is intended against HEAT shells.

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Dans79Vet #3 Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:36 PM

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It reduces it. 

Its equal to hitting armour but not penning. Penning gives full damage roll.

So the spash works out from the impact point.

 The spacing gives the splash further distance to travel and reduces the potential damage.

Depending on the HE fired and the spaced armour, it can be reduced to 0 on multiple occasions.

 

look for the app “armour inspector”

The paid version is very good but the free version will let you test it, just on restricted tier tanks.

 



Dans79Vet #4 Posted 19 October 2017 - 08:42 PM

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View PostIrmaBecx, on 19 October 2017 - 04:13 PM, said:

 

It just reduces it, as far as I'm aware. Spaced armour is intended against HEAT shells.

 

It works similar for Heat.

The armour doesnt negate it, it just provideds an inital impact point with distance to main armour.

After Heat hits the first layer is loses penetration very rapidly after it.

So by the time the Heat hits the main armour, the penetration is reduced to the point that it possibly cant pen it.

 


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ObeseRat_EU #5 Posted 20 October 2017 - 12:13 AM

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Does it do anything against HE penetration?

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View PostObeseRat_EU, on 20 October 2017 - 01:13 AM, said:

Does it do anything against HE penetration?

 

HE explodes on first impact. (Ignore crew voice that says “that one bounced” its incorrect)

So hitting spaced armour means it cant pen the main armour and get a full damage roll.

 

Both pics are an ISU-152 firing HE at a SuperPershing. (If shots hit exact same spot)

The top pic is it hitting the spaced armor of turret.

It receives 4 hits but 0 pen. Damage is lost only via splash damage and he survives.

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The bottom pic is it hitting the turret main armor.

2 shots hit it with one penning doing a full damage roll. The second would kill him with splash damage even if it didnt pen.



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HE will detonate on the outer armour, preventing penetration. Not sure how you would know if there would still be splash damage or not. Hit skin is useless for spaced armour as it only shows outer layer, so it helps ti remember where spaced armour is.

 


ObeseRat_EU #8 Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:50 AM

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I mean if the HE/HESH shell's penetration value exceeds the spaced armor's thickness value, will it penetrate? Yes or no?

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No. Just like hitting a crate before the tank, the charge will detonate before penetration.

 


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View PostObeseRat_EU, on 20 October 2017 - 11:50 AM, said:

I mean if the HE/HESH shell's penetration value exceeds the spaced armor's thickness value, will it penetrate? Yes or no?

 

It might help if there is a specific tank you are wondering about. I would be happy to run some HE penetration tests on my press account for you?

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Dans79Vet #11 Posted 20 October 2017 - 06:34 PM

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View PostObeseRat_EU, on 20 October 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

I mean if the HE/HESH shell's penetration value exceeds the spaced armor's thickness value, will it penetrate? Yes or no?

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Here is a 183 firing Hesh at the spaced armour.

Hesh has pen of 220mm. Spaced armour 38mm plus primary armour behind 76mm, this is less then 220mm hesh pen but it still doesnt pen. But there is splash damage(which is alot from 183’s)

 

HE and Hesh are explosive ammo. They have only one layer they can pen.

- So hitting primary armor, If they pen then its full damage they will deal. if they dont pen then its splash damage.

- So hiting spaced armor they can’t pen the primary armor, they can only deal splash damage.



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just one question: what app/program/website are you using for those pictures? this is something I am looking for for quite a long time!

Radojevicuros22 #13 Posted 13 November 2017 - 02:15 PM

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View PostME_Nerd, on 13 November 2017 - 12:46 PM, said:

just one question: what app/program/website are you using for those pictures? this is something I am looking for for quite a long time!

 

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