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Titus_Scato #281 Posted 09 August 2018 - 08:09 PM

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View PostToulgar, on 09 August 2018 - 06:07 PM, said:

 

Worst armor at tier9 heavies (except Amx 50 120 which is not actually a heavy tank)
Worst AP penetration at tier9 heavies
Worst Heat penetration at tier9 heavies
Worst HE/AP alpha damage ratio at entire game
Worst dpm at tier9 by far

And you magicians decided to buff its ROF. Zuahahaha

 

People buy that tank because she looks like a modern MBT.  Not because she plays like one. 

 

In real life, the MBT 70 / Kpfpz 70 program was a costly disaster - and Blitz is true to the spirit of that history.

 

She looks great, like a model - until you take her out on an expensive date, get her home, and find out just how much of her looks was makeup, Botox, implants, and a tight-fitting corset.  Oh well, close your eyes and think of Claudia Schiffer, and try to forget she’s actually Gina-Lisa Lohfink...

 



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View Postbulletdreetn, on 06 August 2018 - 08:52 PM, said:

 

Kpfpz70 needs big buff its sucks right now, its a tier 9 and its not even like a normal or prem tier 8. bad frontal hull armor, bad reload, and slow traverse on tank and turret. Its nothing like the real one not even close its a joke right now

 

Kpz70 is not that bad - the turret is quite good and the mobility is also okay - the gun itself has nice stats too, although a reload buff is greatly accepted.
I really enjoy it - even tho I had some struggle in last battles

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View PostToulgar, on 09 August 2018 - 06:07 PM, said:

 

Worst armor at tier9 heavies (except Amx 50 120 which is not actually a heavy tank)
Worst AP penetration at tier9 heavies
Worst Heat penetration at tier9 heavies
Worst HE/AP alpha damage ratio at entire game
Worst dpm at tier9 by far

And you magicians decided to buff its ROF. Zuahahaha

 

 

Let me remind you that the glorious E50M has same AP penetration and less HEAT penetration - Even Leopard 1 has less HEAT pen than Kpz70! So what do you want? Kpz70 wasn't a heavy tank either technically. It became the Leopard 2, evne the engine got used for Leopard 2. Yes it has 1500HP irl and it had the best and most powerful engine at its time in the world and could reach 80km/h with ease but that would be ultra overpowered. Just because other have even higher penetration, it doesn't mean its bad. Its good and its more than enough. That whole penetration bs is already bothering me on tier 8 - remember when 175mm penetration was enough with IS-6 or 180mm for Pershing and nobody bat an eye? Now everyone need over 200mm on tier 8 while we had to fight even tier 10s liek E100s or IS-7 with that! And nowadays you only fight tier 9s... That much penetration is a luxury we didnt had back in the good days. I rarely have to use Prammo because you can pen anything when u just take a second to aim - Be happy about it, I wish WG would reduce all tier 8 tanks penetration by 20 to 30mm so people have to learn weakspots and aim again and cant just just magical through gunmantlets :child:

Power to weight ratio is second best of all heavys on tier 9, has good ground resistant values, goo traverse speed, good aim..

Dpm is a tough question because a heavy doesnt rely on dpm but more on alpha and armor - mediums, lights and tds rely on dpm - I mean what is scarier: A KPz70 loaded with HE going for a WTIV and deleting 900HP which is more than half of you or a IS-8 dealing 650HP dmg? Let hte WT IV take cover for longer than 10seconds and trying to retreat a bit and then getting his next shots: again 900 from Kpz70 or again 650 from IS-8. 1800/1600 Kpz70 or 1300/1600 IS-8

The alpha makes the Kpz70 very dangerous in combination with its fair mobility and good aim(remember! its a 152mm with relatively short barrel against long 100mm to 122mm guns and still having just 2sec aimtime) Nobody cares if your E-75 or Conq or ST-I has better stats on paper when they cant play it because they are too slow to reach the good positions or get flanked way more easy. Also Kpz70 has low profile means it can penetrate lowerplates more easy than an E-75 which has to shoot from much steeper angle.


Edited by Calisota_WG, 09 August 2018 - 09:09 PM.


Toulgar #284 Posted 10 August 2018 - 01:01 AM

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View PostCalisota_WG, on 09 August 2018 - 09:00 PM, said:

 

 

Let me remind you that the glorious E50M has same AP penetration and less HEAT penetration - Even Leopard 1 has less HEAT pen than Kpz70! So what do you want? Kpz70 wasn't a heavy tank either technically. It became the Leopard 2, evne the engine got used for Leopard 2. Yes it has 1500HP irl and it had the best and most powerful engine at its time in the world and could reach 80km/h with ease but that would be ultra overpowered. Just because other have even higher penetration, it doesn't mean its bad. Its good and its more than enough. That whole penetration bs is already bothering me on tier 8 - remember when 175mm penetration was enough with IS-6 or 180mm for Pershing and nobody bat an eye? Now everyone need over 200mm on tier 8 while we had to fight even tier 10s liek E100s or IS-7 with that! And nowadays you only fight tier 9s... That much penetration is a luxury we didnt had back in the good days. I rarely have to use Prammo because you can pen anything when u just take a second to aim - Be happy about it, I wish WG would reduce all tier 8 tanks penetration by 20 to 30mm so people have to learn weakspots and aim again and cant just just magical through gunmantlets :child:

Power to weight ratio is second best of all heavys on tier 9, has good ground resistant values, goo traverse speed, good aim..

Dpm is a tough question because a heavy doesnt rely on dpm but more on alpha and armor - mediums, lights and tds rely on dpm - I mean what is scarier: A KPz70 loaded with HE going for a WTIV and deleting 900HP which is more than half of you or a IS-8 dealing 650HP dmg? Let hte WT IV take cover for longer than 10seconds and trying to retreat a bit and then getting his next shots: again 900 from Kpz70 or again 650 from IS-8. 1800/1600 Kpz70 or 1300/1600 IS-8

The alpha makes the Kpz70 very dangerous in combination with its fair mobility and good aim(remember! its a 152mm with relatively short barrel against long 100mm to 122mm guns and still having just 2sec aimtime) Nobody cares if your E-75 or Conq or ST-I has better stats on paper when they cant play it because they are too slow to reach the good positions or get flanked way more easy. Also Kpz70 has low profile means it can penetrate lowerplates more easy than an E-75 which has to shoot from much steeper angle.

 

Let me remind you both E50M and Leopard are medium tanks.
And 900 HE alpha? Where do you get those numbers? Let aside its average, even it's highest HE roll is 800, which is quite unlikely to witness.
It has mobility for a heavy tank, but has not the rof to flank, it is accurate, but not enough to snipe, it has turret armour, but not enough to rely on. All it has is alpha, and this is unreliable due to low pen+too low ROF.

I like it anyway, it looks nice. But it is the worst tier9 heavy tank, thats all. And a small ROF buff won't change this.

Edited by Toulgar, 11 August 2018 - 05:40 AM.


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View PostCalisota_WG, on 09 August 2018 - 11:00 PM, said:

 

 

E50M has same AP penetration

E50m doesnt have ap rounds.



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View PostToulgar, on 10 August 2018 - 03:01 AM, said:

 

Let me remind you both E50M and Leopard are medium tanks.
And 900 HE alpha? Where do you get those numbers? Let aside its average, even it's highest HE roll is 800, which is quite unlikely to witness.
It has mobility for a heavy tank, but has not the rof to flank, it is accurate, but not enough to snipe, it has turret armour, but not enough to rely on. All it has is alpha, and this is unreliable due to low pen+too low ROF.

I like it anyway, it looks nice. But it is the worst tier9 heavy tank, thats all. And a small ROF buff won't change this.

Toulgar mbt70 normally belongs to tier 11 and wargaming decided to put it tier 9 because fck historical accuracy.So just let it go and dont even bother play it since it doesnt belong to tier 9.



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View PostToulgar, on 10 August 2018 - 01:01 AM, said:

 

Let me remind you both E50M and Leopard are medium tanks.
And 900 HE alpha? Where do you get those numbers? Let aside its average, even it's highest HE roll is 800, which is quite unlikely to witness.
It has mobility for a heavy tank, but has not the rof to flank, it is accurate, but not enough to snipe, it has turret armour, but not enough to rely on. All it has is alpha, and this is unreliable due to low pen+too low ROF.

I like it anyway, it looks nice. But it is the worst tier9 heavy tank, thats all. And a small ROF buff won't change this.

 

KV-2 has said max HE for 900 and still can easy oneshot Jagdpanther 1050HP or a FV 183 who has a max of like 1200? - i gave another 183 once a 1600dmg slap - HE can be even better than the said max on paper

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View PostCalisota_WG, on 28 August 2018 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

KV-2 has said max HE for 900 and still can easy oneshot Jagdpanther 1050HP or a FV 183 who has a max of like 1200? - i gave another 183 once a 1600dmg slap - HE can be even better than the said max on paper

 

Nope.  KV-2 has 960 average with HE.  Maximum is 1,200.  183 has HE average of 1,300, and maximum of 1,625.

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View PostCalisota_WG, on 28 August 2018 - 03:45 PM, said:

 

KV-2 has said max HE for 900 and still can easy oneshot Jagdpanther 1050HP or a FV 183 who has a max of like 1200? - i gave another 183 once a 1600dmg slap - HE can be even better than the said max on paper

 

It is obvious you have no idea either about the tank, or difference between average and maximum alpha. Kpfz can NEVER roll 900, because with its HE ammo, its AVERAGE roll is 640 and MAXIMUM roll is 800.
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Edited by Toulgar, 29 August 2018 - 10:05 PM.


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Remember tho, Calisota has Protected Player RNG™️ + CC Gotta win boost™️, so his shots can do Red Tank HP + 50 dmg, every time ;)

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Gosh, don't take this personally but it's hard to see a CC writing so much Bullshìt into an official thread. Where shall I start? The E50M doesn't have AP but Apcr as Standard Ammo. It's pen is 5mm higher than the KpfPz 70, not the same. 175mm of pen were fine on the IS-6 because there were no other IS-tanks on Tier 8 and it was Hightier at least 2/3 of all games, now people are rightfully using the higher pen gun. Kpfpz 70 will never do 900 HE damage on a WT because its maximum roll is 800. Which btw. is why the HE on the KpfPz 70 is almost useless as its Alpha is only marginally higher than the AP and not worth risking a non-penetrating shot. The IS-8 will not do 650 dmg as its maximum roll is 625. No HE will do damage over its maximum roll "on paper" unless the red burns or gets ammorecked. Your maths on the Dmg of KpfPz70 and IS-8 are completely wrong. As Titus has pointed out KV-2 doesn't have maximum HE rolls of 900, its AVERAGE is already 960 and the maximum is 1200. FV183 has maximum roll of 1625, not 1200, again even its average is higher than the number you write.

 

Calisota, you are a bloody CC. If you want to do condescending posts then firstly play better and secondly dont do SEVEN massive mistakes in just two posts. Gosh...


 

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View PostTitus_Scato, on 09 August 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

She looks great, like a model - until you take her out on an expensive date, get her home, and find out just how much of her looks was makeup, Botox, implants, and a tight-fitting corset.  Oh well, close your eyes and think of Claudia Schiffer, and try to forget she’s actually Gina-Lisa Lohfink...

 

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Hey guys! Here come our near future plans:

 

  • 121B - aiming time and dispersion buff;
  • 59 Patton - suspension traverse speed, dispersion, aiming time and rate of fire buff;
  • Dicker Max - hull armor, dispersion on the move buff;
  • Wt auf Pz IV - side elevation angles will be adjusted;
  • Nameless - rate of fire and aiming time buff;
  • M60 - hull side armor and gunmatlet buff;
  • T95E2 - suspension traverse speed, dispersion, aiming time and rate of fire buff;
  • SU-122-54 - rate of fire buff.


_FATZKE_ #294 Posted 05 September 2018 - 12:38 AM

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Nerf the OP ISU 152 ... the Gun is to much OP!

but her will not nerf him .. he has great gold camouflage.:facepalm:

 

 


Edited by _FATZKE_, 05 September 2018 - 01:32 AM.


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View PostRibbleStripe, on 04 September 2018 - 04:53 PM, said:

Hey guys! Here come our near future plans:

  • SU-122-54 - rate of fire buff.

 

Do you mean the SU-122-44, perchance?

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View PostN00basaurus, on 05 September 2018 - 01:53 AM, said:

 

Do you mean the SU-122-44, perchance?

 

Nope,he means the tier 9 soviet tech tree SU-122-54,as if it didnt have enough DPM already.

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View Post_FATZKE_, on 05 September 2018 - 12:38 AM, said:

Nerf the OP ISU 152 ... the Gun is to much OP!

but her will not nerf him .. he has great gold camouflage.:facepalm:

 

Cheers for watching the vid...I agree the gun is fantastic on this tank! like really good...but it is heavily balanced by the poor hull, low armour and very low hit point pool. Do you have another account? This one you are only up to tier 6 so I think you need to play the tank or at least play against it to get a good understanding of its balance.

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View Postsk8xtrm, on 05 September 2018 - 01:27 PM, said:

 

Cheers for watching the vid...I agree the gun is fantastic on this tank! like really good...but it is heavily balanced by the poor hull, low armour and very low hit point pool. Do you have another account? This one you are only up to tier 6 so I think you need to play the tank or at least play against it to get a good understanding of its balance.

 

Sk8 is right. You can only get opinions on the tank after you've played it. I have, and it's great fun, despite the hull being weak and the HP low. One thing I can agree on with Sk8 is it's fun.

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The nameless does not need a buff its needs a massive nerf. Dicker Max is fine as it i, maybe nerf its gun depression by a degree or two. I

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View PostRibbleStripe, on 04 September 2018 - 01:53 PM, said:

Hey guys! Here come our near future plans:

 

  • 121B - aiming time and dispersion buff;
  • 59 Patton - suspension traverse speed, dispersion, aiming time and rate of fire buff;
  • Dicker Max - hull armor, dispersion on the move buff;
  • Wt auf Pz IV - side elevation angles will be adjusted;
  • Nameless - rate of fire and aiming time buff;
  • M60 - hull side armor and gunmatlet buff;
  • T95E2 - suspension traverse speed, dispersion, aiming time and rate of fire buff;
  • SU-122-54 - rate of fire buff.

 

I don't understand why Dicker Max and Nameless need a buff... 





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