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llo1 #21 Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:47 AM

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Another few games of total crap teams!

Yet another display of total ignorance from the greens!

Sorry to keep on about this, but although I do not really care about stats per se, my wr is reducing exponentially with both this tank and every other tier recently!

These players are simply no help to someone like me who is not Unicom and cannot carry a noob team regularly enough!

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Player_3538429276 #22 Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:05 AM

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View Postllo1, on 16 May 2018 - 09:10 AM, said:

And going by the posted results from Player_3538429276, where he has simply loads of shots (28) in 3:40 minutes and I have 4 shots in 1:40 minutes!!!

No comparison!

 

The reason, why I did so many shots and received back without damage even more, is because I was in an open exchange with 4-5 enemies. They couldn't do anything to me in an open fight. That's why this thing is OP.

 

Shots fired: 28

direct hits/penetrations: 24/24

 

Hits received: 34

Penetrations: 9

Without damage: 25

 

 

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llo1 #23 Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:20 AM

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Thanks guys, but I luckily had a red team of yolos this time!

And rather than yolo over the whole map they all made for the centre, as did I.

Ended up running out of AP and nearly out of prammo in the battle!

As others have said I decided on the centre, so that my lack of speed would not seriously disadvantage me.

In the middle of the map, with the reds all round and some of the the greens sniping from distance, the reds were totally distracted.

Additionally I managed to permatrack one KV1 whilst he was half behind a rock, and he couldn't respond!

The deathwagon kept peek a booing against  another green, but with his back to me every time he hid, I landed one into the engine!

 

Thanks to everyone who offered advice, it persuaded me not to simply delete the tanks and to persist with it!

 

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jonty_2014 #24 Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:34 AM

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Didn’t Ace it,

Did work well for me. 1.5 kills per battle and 63%WR.

Works well as top tier, the only natural predator is the DW2.

 


reekoiler #25 Posted 16 May 2018 - 03:52 PM

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View Postllo1, on 16 May 2018 - 11:20 AM, said:

Thanks guys, but I luckily had a red team of yolos this time!

And rather than yolo over the whole map they all made for the centre, as did I.

Ended up running out of AP and nearly out of prammo in the battle!

As others have said I decided on the centre, so that my lack of speed would not seriously disadvantage me.

In the middle of the map, with the reds all round and some of the the greens sniping from distance, the reds were totally distracted.

Additionally I managed to permatrack one KV1 whilst he was half behind a rock, and he couldn't respond!

The deathwagon kept peek a booing against  another green, but with his back to me every time he hid, I landed one into the engine!

 

Thanks to everyone who offered advice, it persuaded me not to simply delete the tanks and to persist with it!

 

 

​Well done llo1.   Now you can progress to the Sherman V and explain to me how to ace that.  I am approaching 300 battles and still can’t do it (not that that’s a record - the VK30.01 P took about 850 and the M10 nearly 1,500!)

Player_3538429276 #26 Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:05 PM

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View Postreekoiler, on 16 May 2018 - 03:52 PM, said:

 

​Well done llo1.   Now you can progress to the Sherman V and explain to me how to ace that.  I am approaching 300 battles and still can’t do it (not that that’s a record - the VK30.01 P took about 850 and the M10 nearly 1,500!)

 

Sherman V is the most OP tank on Earth! Easy!

 

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reekoiler #27 Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:36 PM

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View PostPlayer_3538429276, on 16 May 2018 - 04:05 PM, said:

 

Sherman V is the most OP tank on Earth! Easy!

 

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lol no it is not!   What gun were you using?

LoadAimFireRun #28 Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:43 PM

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If you mean the Sherman M4 its is same recipe as Valentine: find a hill or a rock and go hulldown. You also have speed xd.

 

Its the tank if most often aced and have 77 perc winrate on it. And I played it when I was noob (1.5 years ago). It used to be my goto sealclubber before I had Shinobi.



Player_3538429276 #29 Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:56 PM

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View Postreekoiler, on 16 May 2018 - 04:36 PM, said:

 

lol no it is not!   What gun were you using?

 

75mm M3. It has a balance between damage/hit and rate. It allows finishing low/average hp targets with less risk. 0.643 kills / minute is very high for a reason. 

ponedelj #30 Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:57 PM

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Valentine with top gun is OP. Why? It can pen everything. DPM  Is quite high. Play Valentine II and u will see

Mjr_Eazy #31 Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:59 PM

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Lol, yeah I misread it and thought he was on about Valentine II, I love Valerie Valentine, lost my ace cherry wither her...

awesome tank!


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ponedelj #32 Posted 16 May 2018 - 06:19 PM

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Yeee He have problems with Val I. Val II (prem) now is close to imposible to play. Why? Becouse even with gold you can not pen tier IV... (Hetzer, France, Lee) Ok from sides/back DPM is high but there is no reasob if it dont pen... AND why II suck and I is OP?

Titus_Scato #33 Posted 16 May 2018 - 08:35 PM

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View Postponedelj, on 16 May 2018 - 06:19 PM, said:

Yeee He have problems with Val I. Val II (prem) now is close to imposible to play. Why? Becouse even with gold you can not pen tier IV... (Hetzer, France, Lee) Ok from sides/back DPM is high but there is no reasob if it dont pen... AND why II suck and I is OP?

 

Not true.

 

The Valentine II with APCR can penetrate a Hetzer’s lower front plate.  Also a Char B1’s hull gun mantlet and driver’s position, plus the commander’s hatch on the top of the turret.  The Lee can be penetrated anywhere on the front with APCR.

 

The Valentine II should carry 30 AP, 30 APCR, and 1 HE ammo.

 

 

However, to make things easier for new players who don’t understand the penetration benefits of APCR, maybe the Valentine II should be given the historical QF 2-pounder Mk.IX (the stock gun on the Cruiser II).  

 

This has 13mm higher penetration with AP, and 37mm higher penetration with APCR.  However, DPM would be lower, because the 2-pounder is only a 40mm gun, not a 45mm gun.  Alpha damage is only 45 instead of 55.  Aiming time would also be a lot worse, 1.63 seconds instead of only 1.1 seconds, and gun depression would be only -8 degrees instead of -10.

 

 

P.S.  By the way, the British Valentine is, when fully upgraded, a Mark XI, not a Mark I.

 


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Mjr_Eazy #34 Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:18 PM

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Titus, don’t get me wrong, I love your encyclopediac knowledge of tanks and the frankly scary way you know the difference between WG pixel tank and real tank, but honestly bonny lad, you need to get out more :)


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reekoiler #35 Posted 17 May 2018 - 12:20 AM

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View PostMjr_Eazy, on 16 May 2018 - 11:18 PM, said:

Titus, don’t get me wrong, I love your encyclopediac knowledge of tanks and the frankly scary way you know the difference between WG pixel tank and real tank, but honestly bonny lad, you need to get out more :)

 

Say nothing to discourage Titus please.   

Titus_Scato #36 Posted 17 May 2018 - 12:01 PM

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View PostMjr_Eazy, on 16 May 2018 - 11:18 PM, said:

Titus, don’t get me wrong, I love your encyclopediac knowledge of tanks and the frankly scary way you know the difference between WG pixel tank and real tank, but honestly bonny lad, you need to get out more :)

 

I'd love to, but since I have advanced multiple sclerosis, can only walk about 100 m, and can't afford a mobility scooter (no NHS financial help for those, sadly), it's a bit difficult...  :(

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Mjr_Eazy #37 Posted 17 May 2018 - 12:16 PM

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View PostTitus_Scato, on 17 May 2018 - 12:01 PM, said:

 

I'd love to, but since I have advanced multiple sclerosis, can only walk about 100 m, and can't afford a mobility scooter (no NHS financial help for those, sadly), it's a bit difficult...  :(

 

sorry to hear that m8, It wasnt meant nasty, I’m jealous of your knowledge...

you’d mentioned before but I didn’t realise it was so advanced...

they are stupidly expensive...

is there not any charity that can help? My little one has mobility problems and we got help from a charity to get her a specially adapted bike...


Edited by Mjr_Eazy, 17 May 2018 - 12:18 PM.

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