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jylpah #1 Posted 09 November 2018 - 08:22 AM

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Sorry for opening bit MM-sounding thread, but please list here your "cursed tanks" - tanks with which you have done decent output stats (damage, kills, WN8), but the WR is very low. Here are mine:

 

  • ARL 44: A very good tank coming with 6 useless window-lickers battle after battle.
  • Tiger II - I am very good Tiger II player, but the MM wants to prove it otherwise:

 

 

  • T21: I have played 2x wins with both the tier VI American lights (T37 and T21) back to back. With T37 I have nearly 90% WR, with T21 43.5% :arta: I know it before entering the battle with T21 that I will lose it, no matter what I do.

 


Edited by jylpah, 09 November 2018 - 08:24 AM.

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sorjonen73 #2 Posted 09 November 2018 - 07:29 PM

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You Are so true that "curse" Make your tank performs poorly no pen , armor IS cheese etc..

bunnybun123 #3 Posted 09 November 2018 - 07:42 PM

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VK 30 01 P. Have stats in it that are better than most of my tier 6 medium tanks, but I could barely reach 50 percent winrate in it. Met some players with twice the amount of battles in that tank with 65-70 percent winrate with similar stats...

 

 



Knickerson #4 Posted 09 November 2018 - 09:33 PM

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AMX 50 120. I can't make heads or tales of it.
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jonty_2014 #5 Posted 09 November 2018 - 10:04 PM

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VK30.01H

VK30.01D

Struggled with both to get a 50% WR.

Still yet to do it with the E25.


 


_FREE__SQU1RREL_ #6 Posted 09 November 2018 - 10:18 PM

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all of them, pretty much

 

Whenever i buy a new tank first 50 battles goes very well i call it honeymoon battles, then after, usually 50 battles my statistics start to go down i dont know why does that happen probably psychological or just luck



harrier_77 #7 Posted 09 November 2018 - 11:54 PM

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You only have 18 battles in tiger2. That's not enough to judge it being cursed, after so few games if you win 2 in a row your at 50% and it builds from there.

 

I lost my first 5 battles in gravedigger, so wr was officially 0%..... now after 59 games I'm operating at 60% wr. Imo you need at least 50 battles in an individual vehicle to make a reasonable decision. 


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Mjr_Eazy #8 Posted 10 November 2018 - 02:07 AM

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With 100 battles you have a 10% margin of error, less than 100 it is a lot higher...

1000 battles you’ll be down to around 1%!

so play at least 100 battles and make sure your results are outside the margin of error before whining, or even. Etter play 1k and realise it’s u,  not the tank, not the MM etc etc


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minitelrose #9 Posted 10 November 2018 - 04:32 AM

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Oh Jylpah I have had much worst curses than this, and what is worst, for many many more battles than ur sample.

 

i was unicum /super unicum on a series of tanks for a grand total located between 38% winrate and 42% winrate. 

Especially I want to nominate the dickermax, and the WaffleTräder, amongst quite a handful.

 

Also i was a red player with 40% on another series of tanks.

for exemple the t34-clown I could believe I suck, but I’m 60+ on Lowe and T30.

I can’t see why T34 would be 40% over 100 games with the same player playing the same tricks.

 

 


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Player_4847592806 #10 Posted 10 November 2018 - 06:56 AM

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The tech tree Su101 is simply a bad tank can’t do a lot alone. Also the tech tree Matilda, it wins but unicum stats are hard to reach. 

Jukkis74 #11 Posted 10 November 2018 - 07:16 AM

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Deathtoaster took me 100 matches to reach wr 50%. I think I had three aces by that time, but refused to sell before wr50+. I was EU top100 at the time, now over two years later #163.

jylpah #12 Posted 10 November 2018 - 09:51 AM

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View Postharrier_77, on 10 November 2018 - 01:54 AM, said:

You only have 18 battles in tiger2. That's not enough to judge it being cursed, after so few games if you win 2 in a row your at 50% and it builds from there.

 

I lost my first 5 battles in gravedigger, so wr was officially 0%..... now after 59 games I'm operating at 60% wr. Imo you need at least 50 battles in an individual vehicle to make a reasonable decision. 

 

Yes, the sample is very small. I am just venting out my frustration. Especially with the T21 that is feels quite similar to T37, but my results are the opposite.

 

About Death Toaster & WT comments. Those paper tanks have difficulties in end game against multiple enemies. They just cannot take a hit where is stronk tanks can.


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harrier_77 #13 Posted 10 November 2018 - 10:11 AM

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View Postjylpah, on 10 November 2018 - 09:51 AM, said:

 

Yes, the sample is very small. I am just venting out my frustration. Especially with the T21 that is feels quite similar to T37, but my results are the opposite.

 

About Death Toaster & WT comments. Those paper tanks have difficulties in end game against multiple enemies. They just cannot take a hit where is stronk tanks can.

 

I understand the frustration symptoms only too well...

On the subject of tiger2, I feel for the tank, it should be so much better than it plays in its wg mantra. But that's part and parcel of wargamings 'Soviet is best' policy. Anyway that's a different topic... and one that constantly fills me with ire.

 


Edited by harrier_77, 10 November 2018 - 10:19 AM.

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jylpah #14 Posted 10 November 2018 - 11:37 AM

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View Postharrier_77, on 10 November 2018 - 12:11 PM, said:

 

I understand the frustration symptoms only too well...

On the subject of tiger2, I feel for the tank, it should be so much better than it plays in its wg mantra. But that's part and parcel of wargamings 'Soviet is best' policy. Anyway that's a different topic... and one that constantly fills me with ire.

 

 

I have a different issue with Tiger II. I think Tiger II _is_ quite a good tank. Not as good as Löwe, but quite good. I do well in it. But I think WG has buffed it wrong way. Now Tiger 2 is very "nimble" tank with great gun, but mediocre armor. They should have buffed the armor and nerfed the mobility to make it more like the real Tiger II.

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Punapanda #15 Posted 10 November 2018 - 11:43 AM

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Did you just say "real" and "WG"? :unsure:

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harrier_77 #16 Posted 10 November 2018 - 11:43 AM

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View Postjylpah, on 10 November 2018 - 11:37 AM, said:

 

I have a different issue with Tiger II. I think Tiger II _is_ quite a good tank. Not as good as Löwe, but quite good. I do well in it. But I think WG has buffed it wrong way. Now Tiger 2 is very "nimble" tank with great gun, but mediocre armor. They should have buffed the armor and nerfed the mobility to make it more like the real Tiger II.

 

That's the issue I have with it, it should not be so easily penned. Tiger 2 should be a slow cumbersome beast but rock hard to hurt.

Tiger1 is the same....it handles like a med and hardly anything bounces off it.... both are nothing like their real life alter egos.


Edited by harrier_77, 10 November 2018 - 11:45 AM.

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Knickerson #17 Posted 10 November 2018 - 03:43 PM

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Ahh, I understand your thread now ... Yes, your tanks are cursed.

 

I don't know if I have a cursed tank, but if I do, it might be the T28 proto.


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Fugit555 #18 Posted 10 November 2018 - 03:46 PM

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Every tank I own is cursed or maybe I just suck!

Ours is not to reason why, ours is just to kill, kill kill

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Wildoneshelper #19 Posted 10 November 2018 - 05:34 PM

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T32 was a big curse for me at start, tallying very little damage and now I have to work very hard to get >1900 avg damage at least lol. T20 as well but generally I don't seem to get cursed in tier 6.

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minitelrose #20 Posted 10 November 2018 - 08:55 PM

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Did I mention FV4202 ?

 

 

of course when green people have replace their gun button with some autodestruction device, it’s hard to make any damage, but I still managed positive ratio damage somehow.

 

its worth noting that I played all these battles in platoon. Not that my mates didn’t rage quit after each 3rd loss, but I played it only now and then, to reduce the strain on them. 


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