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IrmaBecx #1 Posted 14 December 2018 - 06:38 PM

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Overpowered! The Hype 62

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Back when I was a German only tank driver, the introduction of the New German Light tanks changed my life. In hindsight they may have been a tad too powerful, but I maintain there is room in the game for that.

 

Either way, driving higher tier Light tanks was a thrill like I had never experienced, and you might say I never really got over it. I still love my Ru 251, the Black Dog is among my absolute favourite premiums, and for a Sunday driver I have my Russian sports prototype the T-54 Lightweight.

 

But the Black Dog wasn’t my first premium Light tank. The Hype 62 was. And there was a very specific reason for that.

 

I kept almost all the NGL tanks, but there was one I could never get along with: the tier VII Spähpanzer I C. I just never liked it. It had nothing to do with the way it drove or how buff or nerfed it was, I just never liked the look of it. But I wanted a tier VII Light tank, and so when the Hype 62 dropped without the gaudy Dragon camo, I signed up right away. It seemed the perfect replacement.

 

Turns out that was kind of a lucky decision. Since the Hype is a premium tank, it was spared from the blanket Light tank nerfs, and people now say it’s completely overpowered.

 

 

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Gaudy “Dragon” camo.

 

 

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As you may recall, I will consider a vehicle overpowered if it will get you out of situations and win you games you don’t deserve to. The overpoweredness of the Type 62 consists of one single thing: it still has pre-nerf penetration values on its HEAT shells. 250 mm; that’s 50 mm more than any other tier VII Light tank.

 

Other than that, it’s pretty average. Well, it has the most hitpoints, 150 more than the others. It also has the fastest traverse, but the worst power to weight ratio, although not by much. You could argue it has better DPM too, but the Bulldog running the single shot actually has more, and almost all other tier VII Light tanks are autoloaders.

 

I could say I don’t like HEAT because it’s finnicky and unreliable, and besides I don’t use it very often, but having that monster penetration is of course a great advantage. 250 mm of HEAT pen will punch right through the front of a tier IX Heavy tank, which is what it was originally balanced for.

 

So yeah, it has overpowered HEAT rounds. That’s not going to help you bounce HE shells, or any other kind of shells for that matter. It’s not going to stop people focusing you, or chasing you down. The Hype is still a Light tank, and it needs wide open spaces, active teammates, and lots of cover to do it’s job properly.

 

Also if you think I sold out to China for a mere 250 mm of HEAT penetration, you are gravely mistaken.

 

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Two years ago, Light tanks were in a very different place than they are now. They had binoculars for spotting, maps were more hilly and had more bushes, and there weren’t very many higher tier Light tanks around. These days, it’s not uncommon to see three or four of them on the same team. The lure of the BatChats and other top tier tanks keep people grinding out the Light tank lines, and a lot of people find a favourite vehicle along the way.

 

Me, I found a few. The Littlepard of course, and the VK 28. Also the MT-25 from the Russian Light tank line, and I had a sweet spot for the T71 before I lost interest in American tanks altogether.

 

But I haven’t put as many games on any of those tanks as I have on on my little Type. It’s a premium, sure, but it’s also a tank with lasting appeal, and it’s always kept me coming back for more.

 

Why?

 

Well, first off, I don’t think you ever get the feeling you’ve truly mastered a high tier Light tank. There’s always new stuff to learn, new positions to find, and new hare brained schemes to rush head first into. Twenty, thirty, or fifty thousand games later, these are the tanks that will keep challenging you to be the best tank driver you can be.

 

There is no accounting for taste, of course. If you are into WW II tanks, you might think the Type 62 looks too modern for you. I happen to think it looks cute, and as strange as it may sound, that’s a big selling point for me. I’m not saying the Hype isn’t strong; it totally is, but that alone isn’t enough for me to put hundreds of games on it. There has to be something more.

 

Actually what I mean is, I am not saying I don’t care that the Type is totally strong, because I do. But what I am getting at is there is more to it than that. You don’t see me driving tanks just because they are strong.

 

 

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Sombre “Wise Turtle” desert camo.

 

 

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I have like 20 Premium tanks at this point, and over 21.000 games played (this was six months ago. I now have 23 Premiums and 11 Blue "Premiums", and 22 and a half thousand games) , so it’s pretty easy for me to determine which ones I’ve gotten the most mileage out of; I just look at the battle count.

 

Some things you can’t tell from statistics. Like the Dracula. I grinded so hard to get my Vampire Batmobile, and I made it with hours to spare. I don’t drive it a lot, but when I do it’s always a great experience, and so the mileage I’ve gotten out of it is incalculable.

 

Returning to my earlier point, the reason I don’t drive the Dracula all that much is that it’s so strong.

 

Other things are easy to tell. Like the Rudy or the Panther/M10 being two of my most beloved tanks; or most successful purchases, if you prefer.

 

What I try to do when I write about premium tanks, is give people a reasonable idea of what to expect should they decide to get one. That’s not always easy. And in the case of the Type 62, the reason I’m so happy with it has very little to do with any kind of numbers. It’s something much more abstract.

 

But it’s not very hard to put into words. The reason is simply that after all this time, the Type 62 still feels like a promise for the future. I’m still excited to drive it and learn new stuff every time I take it out of the garage.

If all you want to do is just drive an overpowered tier VII Light tank, all you have to do is grind out the LTTB. If you haven’t heard, “L.T.T.B” is a Russian acronym, meaning “Light Tank, Heavy Armour”. That’s not even a joke, it’s completely true. You get Light tank speed with an 85 mm gun, and also Heavy tank armour for some reason; my guess is because Russian bias.

 

If you want to drive something like the Type 62, but you don’t want to pay for it, that’s going to be more difficult. Chinese tanks have a curious trait of being very basic vehicles without any kind of bells and whistles, and although it sounds preposterous, that’s actually something pretty rare in the game. The Hype 62 is a tier VII Light tank with a Russian style 84 mm gun. That’s all it is. But until we get a Chinese tech tree Light tank line, it’s the only one in the game.

 

It does have a bit of Chinese bias in those overpowered HEAT rounds, but I think if you get one based solely on that fact, you won’t be very happy with it. Just as well too, because no one likes a HEAT spammer, really.

 

But if you like tier VII, and you are into the Light tank playstyle; or you feel like that’s an area of gameplay you might want to explore, then I don’t think there is a better option out there. Not because it’s overpowered, but because it is perhaps the purest expression of tier VII Light tank gameplay you’ll find in the game.

 

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The Hype 62 is on sale right now. This paper came about because I’ve been grinding credits. I don’t like grinding credits, but tanks like my little Type always make me forget about that fact, because I get so caught up in actually driving them.

That’s the best part about being a tank philosopher. I get to write about what I want. Even something as mundane as grinding credits can be an inspiration.

And the Hype still inspires me. After two years, I think that’s quite an accomplishment.

Driving it makes me recall what Henry Rollins said (about being a police officer, but still) in the excellent movie “The Chase” (1994) : “I don’t know if I’m busting bad guys or signing autographs. Kind of like being a star.”

That’s exactly what it is. When I’m out there in my Hype 62, it’s like I don’t know if I’m shooting red tanks or signing autographs.

Kind of like being a star.

IrmaBecx says the next time the Hype 62 comes around, see if you can get a good deal on it. It’ll be worth it in the long run.

 

See you out there.


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Markat26 #2 Posted 14 December 2018 - 08:00 PM

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Hy Irma

we met in game the other week and I lamented it was sad you are no longer contributing to the forum, well a week is a long time in WG politics! 

 

So enough of that, I just think you should reconsider the American Lights, I am grinding through the Walker Bulldog to the T49 at the moment after giving up all new tank grinds for a year following 3.8.

its actually quite good. The Chaffee was ok as well.

 

As for the T62 Dragon, got that too cos I used to spend way too much on this game, I think I got it first time around and was so happy to ditch Dragon cammo. In fact the only posh cammo I have is on the E25.

 

The '62, it's not OP in my hands but then I think there is a coefficient, the faster the tank == related to skill of player means you can get into more trouble sooner. Ive seen it played well in other hands but the gun depression didn't work for me as at the time I was playing it at the same time as the Cromwell B. Yeah I know, gold noob. But  it looks damn good without that dragon paint! 

 

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View PostMarkat26, on 14 December 2018 - 10:00 PM, said:

 

So enough of that, I just think you should reconsider the American Lights, I am grinding through the Walker Bulldog to the T49 at the moment after giving up all new tank grinds for a year following 3.8.

its actually quite good. The Chaffee was ok as well.

 

 

Yea, that's just not going to happen...

 

I have fond memories of the T71 from before the nerfs, and I don't want to ruin that. But more importantly, the T49 is one of the tanks I hate the absolute most in the game. It's a meme tank, it does way too much damage, and it promotes bad gameplay. I think it's detrimental to the game, same as the Skill Star is, I wish they would remove it, and I wouldn't be caught dead driving one.

 

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2000+ games and counting. Need I say more? I think the reason why this tank is so great is not the Heat, not the DPM or the flat silhouette, its that its one of the few Light Tanks that will not make you STOP and aim all the time. You just keep on driving and you will hit most of your shots. Plus the traverse is just hilarious, its such a nimble tank and you dont drift all the time like in a Ru 251. I really love tanks with great on-the-move dispersion. Type 62 and the Pattons are in my Top-5 list of most played tanks and I think its exactly for that reason. I dont like stopping and aiming. Other than that the Type is also a perfect allrounder. Same as the Pattons. Ironic you dont like American tanks ;)

 

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Such a fun tank, although I don't roll in the Dragon cam lol

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View PostRA1D_SCHNITZEL_, on 14 December 2018 - 11:35 PM, said:

2000+ games and counting. Need I say more? I think the reason why this tank is so great is not the Heat, not the DPM or the flat silhouette, its that its one of the few Light Tanks that will not make you STOP and aim all the time. You just keep on driving and you will hit most of your shots. Plus the traverse is just hilarious, its such a nimble tank and you dont drift all the time like in a Ru 251. I really love tanks with great on-the-move dispersion. Type 62 and the Pattons are in my Top-5 list of most played tanks and I think its exactly for that reason. I dont like stopping and aiming. Other than that the Type is also a perfect allrounder. Same as the Pattons. Ironic you dont like American tanks ;)

 

I used to drive American cars; I gave that up as well... :D

 

But yea, I never really thought about that - the accuracy on the move. Saw some super clean no-scopes in the first game of Meadsy's three tank review; I think I'm either shooting on the move without thinking, or I've been doing it wrong all this time?? 

 

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Such a fun tank, although I don't roll in the Dragon cam lol

 

Me either! XD

 

I don't think I drove it on the press account, even. The photo above is likely the only time it's even had the dragon camo equipped... :)


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View PostFugit555, on 15 December 2018 - 12:39 AM, said:

Such a fun tank, although I don't roll in the Dragon cam lol

View PostIrmaBecx, on 15 December 2018 - 01:00 AM, said:

Me either! XD

 

Shame...shame...shame

Ding ding

 

I parked my 62 with the rumors of the new German super heavy line and overall buffs to tier 7 heavy tanks. I would have taken the tank into tier 10 and even to-be tier 11 games if maps were bigger and the game mechanics were a bit more fair towards lighter tanks. Regardless, it is still a magnificent if deliberately underpowered piece of machinery for those that can exploit the strenghts of the machine.


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Honestly, isn’t this part of vehicle discussion, if we follow the rules? Could a mod please move it?

 

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View PostIrmaBecx, on 14 December 2018 - 10:00 PM, said:

 

I used to drive American cars; I gave that up as well... :D

 

But yea, I never really thought about that - the accuracy on the move. Saw some super clean no-scopes in the first game of Meadsy's three tank review; I think I'm either shooting on the move without thinking, or I've been doing it wrong all this time?? 

 

 

Me either! XD

 

I don't think I drove it on the press account, even. The photo above is likely the only time it's even had the dragon camo equipped... :)

 

Well, there is a very rational reason for not driving American cars (contemporary ones): they suck. ;) American tanks in Blitz dont. But yeah, other topic.

 

I actually like the Dragon camo. I bought the Type 62 when it was first released (before the buff) and changed the camo to other ones once this was possible. However, I switched back to Dragon when the Type 62 was rereleased, because I wanted to show that I was one of the original owners. Yes, its stupid, I know. Then, WG being WG rereleased the Dragon camo so it became meaningless. I completely removed it when Chinese Meds were released, because I thought some enemies might not recognize the mighty Dragon without the name amongst all the new Types and T-s. Anyway, now Im on a mixed camo level, summer gets the dragon while desert and winter get other camos. I like variety.

 

@puru: did you really just call the Type 62 underpowered? Dont let the last iteration of Talhaone hear you.


 

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View PostPururut, on 15 December 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

 

Regardless, it is still a magnificent if deliberately underpowered piece of machinery for those that can exploit the strenghts of the machine.

 

Wut? :amazed:  Have you been hanging out with cancracker again? :facepalm::P

 

I used to love the Hype 62, but I never play it anymore, its not as unique as the tier 8 lighs, still a good little tank though.

 



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View PostRA1D_SCHNITZEL_, on 16 December 2018 - 03:47 AM, said:

@puru: did you really just call the Type 62 underpowered? Dont let the last iteration of Talhaone hear you.

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Wut? :amazed:  Have you been hanging out with cancracker again? :facepalm::P

 

All I am saying is that it used to be more fun to drive 62 back when playerbases lack of skill wasnt substituted by Wargaming through tier 7-8 heavy tank power creep.


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View PostPururut, on 16 December 2018 - 03:35 PM, said:

 

All I am saying is that it used to be more fun to drive 62 back when playerbases lack of skill wasnt substituted by Wargaming through tier 7-8 heavy tank power creep.

 

Ok I can give you that, back when it was the highest tier light tank in the game, before the tier 7 heavies all got mobility buffs and when almost no one knew to turn their hull and turret at the same time it was crazy OP, I still remember my first game In it about half an hour after it first dropped in the store, I went strait up the side of the hill on the old Mines and these two Cromwell's from the red team rushed the hill and both shat themselves when they saw me there :justwait: one bailed without even firing a shot at me the other tried to fight but was clearly very put off already and I think he only penned me once before I cleared him :playing: that kind of mobility advantage, as bushka used to say "drive it like you stole it", with a really good gun was just mental :teethhappy: and then you get the camo too! Too be fair your right its not as good as it used to be, but that's down to it having competition and ofc Helsing and Drac, rather than it being underpowered.


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Also of course the various nerfs of Heat ammo were not great for the OP-nes. In its greatest days, when Heat would pen tracks, spaced armor and do full damage it was really broken, especially in platoon. Still, despite of this and powercreep it still is the best Tier 7 Light tank. 

 

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I have to admit the type 62 is my most favourite tank. It gets to sleep at the foot of my bed ( the dogs are regulated to the conservatory and the wife to the shed). I would love to tell u a hundred and one reasons why (it is my best performing tank - not true, it is the fastest and most agile tank I have - not true, it earns me the most credits - not true, etc) but I can’t. All I can say is it is the one tank that has never made me not smile. Also It is a pleasure to grind credits in it. 

 



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View PostRA1D_SCHNITZEL_, on 16 December 2018 - 04:46 PM, said:

Also of course the various nerfs of Heat ammo were not great for the OP-nes. In its greatest days, when Heat would pen tracks, spaced armor and do full damage it was really broken, especially in platoon. Still, despite of this and powercreep it still is the best Tier 7 Light tank. 

Ye cant spam HEAT into the sides of an is6 for full dmg anymore :(

 

 






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