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WZ-120. Eh..?

the 120 isnt that great tbh

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_FREE__HABL_ #1 Posted 08 October 2019 - 04:36 PM

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Hey guys, my name is Hab and here is the (not) long-awaited WZ-120 review. The tier IX one, just so we're clear here. No poll this time as I think just saying what you think it needs changed will be enough.

I expected this to be the lowest point of the medium line, and as I finally have the 121 now, I can assure you that this is gonna be the worst the grind will ever get. The stock grind is dreadful and I grinded it from stock, 100%. I don't wish that to anyone else on this planet. But we're gonna be looking at the tank in its top setup. So how does it compare in our typical three areas of interest? Well, let's see...

Gun. A MASSIVE catch

The gun is really nice, I'd say it's even better than the one on the T-34-2, tier for tier. Pen is below average at 220, 280 HEAT is alright and 63 HE is pretty decent. I'd recommend to invest in calibrated shells though I played most of the line with the rammer due to low DPM. That also applies here. The second worst DPM out of all tier IX mediums says something about how low it is...and with calibrated shells it's gonna be around 10 seconds. But the DPM isn't why the line exists. The alpha damage is getting a bit lost in the 350 alpha storm that's starting to brew in this tier, but it still does the job just fine.
Here's the catch though...not many of those things matter thanks to a very, very bad characteristic of the gun. Three degrees of gun depression. Three...that's just not enough for conventional medium play. This made my experience with this tank rather sour, and I wouldn't be surprised if you skipped the tank - I used 90k free xp to skip it, and my clan deputy skipped it entirely! :teethhappy:

This means that using the tank hull down is also very difficult, as most ridges will give you big trouble. Aiming on weakspots if the tank is close to you is also gonna be pretty difficult, which means you can't really use it aggressively. This kills the tank, imo if the gun depression will be buffed to 5 degrees then the tank is gonna be perfectly fine.

Armor. Pretty fine but hampered by the gun

The turret still retains the sturdy factor the previous tanks before it had. It however does feel a bit weaker so I like to say it's a stronger T-54 turret but with the same weakspots. The hull is decently armored but it won't tank anything. It's about 190mm effective on the front, and compared to the 220mm the T-54 has that's a shame. Angling is probably the only way you'll be able to reinforce that plate as the gun depression severely limits your hull down capabilities. A big shame, as the armor would otherwise be pretty respectable'

Mobility. Pretty swift

This is gonna be basically identical to the T-54's mobility. Great traverse numbers, decent terrain resistance and top speed make this a pretty fast tank.

Finale. Eh...
I honestly can't recommend this tank. It doesn't currently fit in any list of good tanks in tier IX and the good things it has going for it are vastly outweighed by the gun depression.

EFFECTIVENESS: 5/10

This is probably the least effective tier IX med you can roll out...the T-54 and the E 50 are far better options here. Gun depression is the key to resolving this tank.

FUN FACTOR: 4/10

The 120 is rarely fun, I more or less suffered through the entire grind before I skipped it. But trust me, the 121 is worth it. I recommend to skip to the top gun first.

 

Same things apply! If you have an opinion about this review or the tank in general, feel free to share your thoughts.



Mjr_Eazy #2 Posted 09 October 2019 - 05:52 AM

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 Nice review.

I’m working on this line, I knew it was gonna be tough in this one but not just how bad it is, I don’t have the free xp so will stop at the viii until I get the free xp elsewhere...


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SfMercenary1312 #3 Posted 09 October 2019 - 07:19 AM

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Going chinese heavy line first also helps a lot. And also if u grind medium line, it helps on heavy line. It's not so painfull to grind , since u can open the 100mm gun on tier 8 heavy. So I suggest, people go first on tier 8 heavy before going tier wz-120 
Also havin engines from heavy line is nice catch on mediums and saves a lot of time and trouble. 

Edited by SfMercenary1312, 09 October 2019 - 07:26 AM.


Rasenmaehermann #4 Posted 15 April 2020 - 04:18 PM

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View PostHablmetForever, on 08 October 2019 - 04:36 PM, said:

Finale. Eh...

I honestly can't recommend this tank. It doesn't currently fit in any list of good tanks in tier IX and the good things it has going for it are vastly outweighed by the gun depression.

EFFECTIVENESS: 5/10

This is probably the least effective tier IX med you can roll out...the T-54 and the E 50 are far better options here. Gun depression is the key to resolving this tank.

FUN FACTOR: 4/10

The 120 is rarely fun, I more or less suffered through the entire grind before I skipped it. But trust me, the 121 is worth it. I recommend to skip to the top gun first.

 

Same things apply! If you have an opinion about this review or the tank in general, feel free to share your thoughts.

Since the WZ 120 got buffed,  will you update your review? :)  The turret armor is best in class now wih 220mm in the front.

View PostSfMercenary1312, on 09 October 2019 - 07:19 AM, said:

Going chinese heavy line first also helps a lot. And also if u grind medium line, it helps on heavy line. It's not so painfull to grind , since u can open the 100mm gun on tier 8 heavy. So I suggest, people go first on tier 8 heavy before going tier wz-120 
Also havin engines from heavy line is nice catch on mediums and saves a lot of time and trouble. 

Coming from PC WoT, I did the same. highly recommended.  I also researched the 113 just to get the top gun for the WZ 120 unlocked. ( you can do that in PC WoT) Or - well - thats what I believed I would do.  The gun on the 113 has one extra letter at the end of its name.  Also the 113's and the WZ-120`s gun stats are quite different in Blitz. So they are not one and the same research item.  So much for talking about the awful WZ-120 grind.  Yes, it can be even worse, when you are stupid! :D

 

At the moment I like the WZ-120 a lot.  I was afraid, that its main selling point - the 440 alpha damage of the PC version - would be vanished in blitz as the gun only has 400 alpha, but I ignored the fact that all tanks of its class have a lower alpha damage.  So the trading advantage ( what it is all about)  persists.  You could say, the "trades per minute" are higher. :P

 

I admit that the gun depression can be problematic, but one can get accustomed to it.  In PC wot the WZ-120 is my favourite tank because of its character. Once you have some experience,  your mind will quickly assess the terrain around you. You will know where you can make the gun work.

I was thinking about to write:  "I wish more hull armor"

But actually you are making a mistake, if you let the enemy shoot into your hull.  Its tempting to compare the WZ-120 with the T-54 - just to come to the conclusion that the T-54 is better.    - lets rather call it russian bias.   the T54 has better armor AND its lighter than the WZ-120. Oh, and T-54 has more engine power! Call that soviet construction design ingenuity!

 

extra treat: 6.8 stats

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source: RibbleStripe on the Blitz Discord Server

 

I would have expected that the WZ-120 has better stats because its more of a hipster tank. T-54 would be driven by more new- thus less effective players who chose to play "the russians".  Doesnt seem to be the case here. ;)


Edited by Rasenmaehermann, 16 April 2020 - 04:59 AM.


_FREE__HABL_ #5 Posted 15 April 2020 - 08:12 PM

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View PostRasenmaehermann, on 15 April 2020 - 05:18 PM, said:

Since the WZ 120 got buffed,  will you update your review? :)  The turret armor is best in class now wih 220mm in the front.

I'll consider it if I'm buying it back, but I'm gonna update the armor department a bit later.







Also tagged with the, 120, isnt, that, great, tbh

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