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Strummer54 #1 Posted 01 December 2019 - 04:42 PM

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Think about it, some players average that every game for thousands of games at tier ten. Just good? If I had 3 or 4 games with 4K damage I’d think I was doing well...if I had 10 one the trot, well, that would be exceptional, 10 games doing 4K damage...brill. Now if that carried on for 20 solid games I’d start thinking something was up. To be doing that much damage every single game means a number of things...

1. pretty much every shot needs to pen, that’s just common sense otherwise you’re not going to average that damage.

2. to be able to pen that much you’re going to have to put yourself in the firing line a little bit, thatst just as much common sense as well, so, it follows you’re going to have to bounce a fair few shots as well.

 

The only thing that will enable those 2 things is rng, forget aiming well...we all aim at weakspots...after you aimed at a weakspot, the only thing that determines where the shot goes is rng, nothing more, it’s simply that simple.

so, are the 4K average damage guys that good...to do it every game...or is there some other rational explanation?


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Pururut #2 Posted 01 December 2019 - 06:15 PM

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Mostly if not always be at the right place at the right time. 
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Strummer54 #3 Posted 01 December 2019 - 06:18 PM

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Lol, yeh, right place, right time for every single shot or bounce..which is my point...oh yeh, then don’t bounce or get penned as well...give it some thought.

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O_o__O_o__O_o #4 Posted 01 December 2019 - 08:06 PM

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if someone is doing 4k every battle yes he is very good player but it also depends what tank are you playing

i have 2.7k over 120battles in a TD but a little less than 2.3k over 160battles in a heavy and my med is around 2.1k

 

so big guns,knowing where to be and who to shoot (and what ammo) is very important to have high damage and those things are usually what separates awesome players from regular ones so if you ask me its more about skill than rng

rng is more for a regular players :)

 

also 20battles its not that much i think i was around 3.5k over 20battles in my e3 but since i hit 100 its at 2.7k

 



jylpah #5 Posted 01 December 2019 - 08:25 PM

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I think the very best players are bit over 3K damage. I have never seen any one even remotely close to 4K average damage. Already 3K is small miracle to me :child:

Just a little buff for Panther II, please 

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The_Mighty_Wombat #6 Posted 01 December 2019 - 09:54 PM

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https://www.blitzstars.com/topplayers?sort=special.dpb&regions=All&days=999&avgTier=0

From tracked stats there are only a few that are above 3500 damage for career.

 

The number one is 3647 damage. 
https://www.blitzstars.com/player/ru/legaIaize

6 of his tierX are over 4k with really good stats.

These tanks are good dpm with a decent armor profile, except the batchat but thats a sneaky tank.

Good amount of shots per game and high survivability. So he stays alive and is constantly shooting.


3000-3500 is the general average for most really good players and is possible.

When they have a “bad” game then that is averaged out with a 5-6k game later.

They use every trick to stay alive and do damage. 
it wouldnt be surprising if they only play at certain times also.



gallabru #7 Posted 02 December 2019 - 07:05 AM

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Players are like fishermens. They always average high average damage when you were not here to see.
As said above 3k average damage is already very (very) good. The average 60% wr player averages 2.2-2.4k at tier 10.
Now that I have said that, I am going to check, but I am pretty much sure this is not far from that.

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Mjr_Eazy #8 Posted 02 December 2019 - 07:12 AM

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Classic strummer, ofc it must be rigged that someone is good at the game, what else could it be :facepalm:

Can you provide evidence of these accounts with 4K average dmg and how many there are?


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Strummer54 #9 Posted 02 December 2019 - 07:28 AM

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At tier X...

 

 


Mjr_Eazy #10 Posted 02 December 2019 - 08:09 AM

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How many players?

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_RagingRabbit_ #11 Posted 02 December 2019 - 08:30 AM

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I believe it's the art of being at the good spots at all times... I know how to sidescrape and a lot of other tricks and I can perform well... if I'm in the right position. For some reason, I actually am in a lot of my games, but in others I can't get the damage in because I'm not positioned well.

 

I know most "good" positions but figuring out when to move is one of those things I'll never learn, I'm afraid. 

 

That, and me getting older, being afraid to platoon & being a noobish player all around is what's holding me back from getting that 4k as well :teethhappy:



gallabru #12 Posted 02 December 2019 - 09:21 AM

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Here are some heatmaps of the damages dealt per tank type at tier X during 6.4 (or so).

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4k average, even at tier 10, is far from being common, even on a small sample where some may have been playing only a few games and been lucky.

 


Edited by gallabru, 02 December 2019 - 09:26 AM.

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Strummer54 #13 Posted 02 December 2019 - 09:44 AM

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It's not common, and totally unrealistic to expect those players not to get a few duff teams where they cant help but die with little damage. I've seen it happen a few times, so to average 4 k means there will be corresponding games with far higher damage. The point I'm trying to make is they must not bounce many shots, and must also take fewer pens themselves than is "normal"... that much must be self evident.

Edited by Strummer54, 02 December 2019 - 09:48 AM.

 

 


Replicant_2 #14 Posted 02 December 2019 - 10:00 AM

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Every sport has a small group of super players to whom normal laws of physics don’t seem to apply when they’re on top of their game.
The most insulting thing is that they make it look easy and effortless but try to copy what they do and soon you learn that what they do time and time again is in itself a small miracle.
Federer, Tiger Woods, Schumacher, Usain Bolt and many others come to mind (there are equally if not more talented female athletes out there, forgive me for not providing examples)
It’s natural talent backed up with lots of hard work. They’re total outliers and give us something to aspire to even if it’s completely out of reach for mere mortals.

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Buckleyteer2 #15 Posted 02 December 2019 - 10:05 AM

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I agree as I am now playing more tier9 % 10 every now and then you get a superstar player who obliterate the reds and when you look at their stats after the match you can see they are good with a 65-70+& WR and I'm grateful that this day they were on my team lol.

 I watched a guy in a STB-1 who was so good and I thought we would lose but this guy was a pleasure to watch how he took down 3 reds all on his own and 2 were heavies..



gallabru #16 Posted 02 December 2019 - 10:07 AM

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If your point is that extremely good players play outstanding, then yes.

If your point is wondering whether there is some code that provides some unfair advantage to a ridiculously tiny part of the player base, maybe but why ? What would be the point ? What would that achieve ? How would that impact all the others ? 

 

Replicant_2, you forgot to mention Teddy Riner


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O_o__O_o__O_o #17 Posted 02 December 2019 - 10:18 AM

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hmm im more interested in those 500 and less damage players now after i saw those heatmaps :)

gallabru #18 Posted 02 December 2019 - 11:04 AM

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Exactly, there are as many as those with more than 4k. Do they have a special rng too ?

 

What I found interesting in these data when I first saw them, is that the average damage varies only slightly with the tank type.

 

To me, that means that : either the playerbase plays all tanks in the same way independently of the type (on the average) or that the balance of the tanks is made so that there is not much discrepency in term of damages dealt.


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Strummer54 #19 Posted 02 December 2019 - 05:21 PM

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You’re missing the point...apart from being exceptionally good, logic determines that to do that much damage consistently over thousands of games means you can’t be bouncing much...just food for thought.

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Corpsetaker #20 Posted 02 December 2019 - 05:44 PM

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Here's the problem I have. Nobody in the groups I am paired with just stand around and let you shoot all day long. Not to mention the fact of reload times etc....




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