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Remove Sheridan and T92E1 at rating battles and nerf them!

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Poll: ATGM Tanks (48 members have cast votes)

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What do you think about ATGM tanks unable to play at rating battles?

  1. I want rating battles with ATGM tanks (17 votes [34.69%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 34.69%

  2. I want rating battles without ATGM tanks (32 votes [65.31%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 65.31%

What do you want about ATGM tanks feature?

  1. Remove the ATGM cannon and make it similar at WOT PC version! (26 votes [46.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 46.43%

  2. Nerf their armor and mobility! (19 votes [33.93%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.93%

  3. Everything is ok, i want to see them like this form! (11 votes [19.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 19.64%

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O_o__O_o__O_o #61 Posted 18 May 2020 - 09:49 AM

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since WG said till season is ended they wont do much about them dont expect any changes before july 

i think around end of year they will be forgotten after 2-3nerfs



llo1 #62 Posted 18 May 2020 - 05:11 PM

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View PostBuckleyteer2, on 18 May 2020 - 09:46 AM, said:

Yes the LOCA were out in force yesterday we got steam rolled by an OBJ140 and cant remember what the other platoon guy was in but they were both 70+ WR players. Seeing that you might as well go and have a cuppa and let them do but I did think.. As much as we lose it must get boring winning all the time.

Possibly, but with my series of losses, even a few wins would make a change!



LanguishViking #63 Posted 19 May 2020 - 12:45 PM

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I'm tired of these tanks. They have the mobility and view range of bat-chat, the accuracy and penetration of a waffle, the gun depression of a patton and, given the results I've had using hesh and he on them, the side armor on an IS-4. 

 

They are cancer. The tanks do not scout or flank, they just play TDs until the game breaks down where they kill steal. Bad tanks that promote bad behavior. 

 

They are not like the T.-49, the T-49 pays a heavy price for it's alpha and mobility, it's a high threshold tank. 



llo1 #64 Posted 19 May 2020 - 12:58 PM

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View PostLanguishViking, on 19 May 2020 - 12:45 PM, said:

I'm tired of these tanks. They have the mobility and view range of bat-chat, the accuracy and penetration of a waffle, the gun depression of a patton and, given the results I've had using hesh and he on them, the side armor on an IS-4. 

 

They are cancer. The tanks do not scout or flank, they just play TDs until the game breaks down where they kill steal. Bad tanks that promote bad behavior. 

 

They are not like the T.-49, the T-49 pays a heavy price for it's alpha and mobility, it's a high threshold tank. 


It must simply be me that is a total noob in them then.

I really seem to have the T92 lemon in my garage!

Minimal pen, minimal armour, and as the the nut behind the gun......cannot even get the hang of ATGM - using them like rockets seems to be my limitation!


Edited by llo1, 19 May 2020 - 01:02 PM.


O_o__O_o__O_o #65 Posted 19 May 2020 - 01:08 PM

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use them as missiles not rockets stay hidden put your gun up and just point your aim with lookout area 

maybe try in training rooms first or invite me for platoon :)

they are really easy to learn and once you do that you will become OP player


Edited by O_o__O_o__O_o, 19 May 2020 - 01:09 PM.


llo1 #66 Posted 19 May 2020 - 01:11 PM

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View PostO_o__O_o__O_o, on 19 May 2020 - 01:08 PM, said:

use them as missiles not rockets stay hidden put your gun up and just point your aim with lookout area 


Nah, I suppose I am simply a glutton for punishment........besides eventually WG will nerf them totally so I don’t think I want to Waste my enjoyment learning  something that others totally hate! (Age-ist  I suppose)!



I_C4NT_W1N_ #67 Posted 20 May 2020 - 06:30 AM

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I was rubbish in the T92 but fair better in the cherry sherry

Staxtic #68 Posted 20 May 2020 - 12:47 PM

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I'd prefer they remove the mechanic, I don't think the tanks are OP. Though the missile mechanic becomes more annoying as time progresses.

Why? it's a high skill cap mechanic, most players will never be able to utilise it but it's a high reward skill. That over time, more and more players will learn to become effective with.
If it remains in the game, Wargaming will continue to add new tanks in different tiers with this feature. Kill it before it becomes too persistent.  


I don't think you should ever be able to be shot from a position of safety while in a position of safety in blitz. One of the reasons I despise Wot pc, getting shafted by arty just isn't a rewarding experience. You don't even need to be making a mistake for it to happen.



Winters_2014 #69 Posted 22 May 2020 - 01:42 PM

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View PostStaxtic, on 20 May 2020 - 12:47 PM, said:

I'd prefer they remove the mechanic, I don't think the tanks are OP. Though the missile mechanic becomes more annoying as time progresses.

Why? it's a high skill cap mechanic, most players will never be able to utilise it but it's a high reward skill. That over time, more and more players will learn to become effective with.
If it remains in the game, Wargaming will continue to add new tanks in different tiers with this feature. Kill it before it becomes too persistent.


I don't think you should ever be able to be shot from a position of safety while in a position of safety in blitz. One of the reasons I despise Wot pc, getting shafted by arty just isn't a rewarding experience. You don't even need to be making a mistake for it to happen.

 

exactly this, well said


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Pea_Nut #70 Posted 22 May 2020 - 06:02 PM

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No chance of ATGMs being removed from the game. Just think of the earning potential for WG when they release a premium ATGM in crates.

 

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talhaONE #71 Posted 28 May 2020 - 03:28 AM

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View Postromsitsa, on 09 April 2020 - 11:48 AM, said:

If you don’t drive lights, a tip: even the thinnest armor, like SPC, will bounce the largest shells, like ISU, as fast lights change their armor profile in a blink. So 20 mm can randomly become 200.

 

 

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Most of the time people hit the lower part of the tracks that doesnt connect with the main armor. If you hit the main armor with a caliber 3 times as big then the armor thickness it will never bounce.

 

There are 2 explanations:

 

1. You hit an external spaced armor and the shot did not touch the main armor. 

 

2. It was lagged crappy WG servers and your shot didnt even recognized as a hit. In the result screen you will see this shot as a miss. 

 

Other then those 2 no. 3x bigger caliber then armor thickness will always penetrate the armor. Its hard coded in game files. 

 

 


Edited by talhaONE, 28 May 2020 - 03:29 AM.


Jukkis74 #72 Posted 28 May 2020 - 05:20 AM

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View PosttalhaONE, on 28 May 2020 - 05:28 AM, said:

Most of the time people hit the lower part of the tracks that doesnt connect with the main armor. If you hit the main armor with a caliber 3 times as big then the armor thickness it will never bounce.

 

There are 2 explanations:

 

1. You hit an external spaced armor and the shot did not touch the main armor. 

 

2. It was lagged crappy WG servers and your shot didnt even recognized as a hit. In the result screen you will see this shot as a miss. 

 

Other then those 2 no. 3x bigger caliber then armor thickness will always penetrate the armor. Its hard coded in game files. 

 

 


I have not been saving replays for this, but I am far from sure that the x3 caliber rule has been properly implemented. Or there is additional auto-ricochet involved as well.



romsitsa #73 Posted 28 May 2020 - 08:07 AM

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3x doesn't work or it's not displayed properly. Just drive the T92 and sooner or later you will get a ~900 dmg bounce indicator from a DS, this shouldn't be possible.

 

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talhaONE #74 Posted 29 May 2020 - 06:07 AM

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View Postromsitsa, on 28 May 2020 - 10:07 AM, said:

3x doesn't work or it's not displayed properly. Just drive the T92 and sooner or later you will get a ~900 dmg bounce indicator from a DS, this shouldn't be possible.

 

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Are you sure you are not hitting the lower part of the tracks? Dont be fooled by the in game trajectory. Its usually doesnt show the actually place where your shot goes. You can always see the where your shots actualy hit in the wotispector.com.



Jukkis74 #75 Posted 29 May 2020 - 06:38 AM

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View PosttalhaONE, on 29 May 2020 - 08:07 AM, said:

Are you sure you are not hitting the lower part of the tracks? Dont be fooled by the in game trajectory. Its usually doesnt show the actually place where your shot goes. You can always see the where your shots actualy hit in the wotispector.com.


No replays (sorry) but I have had that for upper frontal plate, and earlier same for Leo as well.

 

Mostly (always?) lower parts of tracks should give the voice ’that went through’ message, which is different than ricochet.



romsitsa #76 Posted 29 May 2020 - 08:23 AM

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View PosttalhaONE, on 29 May 2020 - 06:07 AM, said:

Are you sure you are not hitting the lower part of the tracks? Dont be fooled by the in game trajectory. Its usually doesnt show the actually place where your shot goes. You can always see the where your shots actualy hit in the wotispector.com.


Sure? Nothing is sure in Blitz. But yesterday facehugged a Sheridan in my T92, apcr bounced twice from its nose. If it went into its tracks, the actual game display is not related to reality in any way. If it did hit the nose, 3x doesn’t work.

 

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View Postromsitsa, on 29 May 2020 - 10:23 AM, said:


Sure? Nothing is sure in Blitz. But yesterday facehugged a Sheridan in my T92, apcr bounced twice from its nose. If it went into its tracks, the actual game display is not related to reality in any way. If it did hit the nose, 3x doesn’t work.

 

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Lmao. 

 

Please If you have the replay file upload it. I want to check it myself. 



romsitsa #78 Posted 29 May 2020 - 10:23 AM

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View PosttalhaONE, on 29 May 2020 - 08:28 AM, said:

Lmao. 

 

Please If you have the replay file upload it. I want to check it myself. 

 

Don't have it anymore, but here is a really similar one, Progetto at 0.30. These shots never pen, no matter how big the gun is.

https://replays.woti...69293464c028435

 

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View Postromsitsa, on 18 May 2020 - 12:33 PM, said:

Try to remember why and how the T49 was nerfed. The T92 has the same problem and it’s not the rocket.

 

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T49 can easily flank enemy team, T92E1 can do it too but not easily due to speed and maneuver stats, so if you're talking about penetration rate it's a bad idea definitely, because there are a lot armour in tier 9-10 so it will have less chance to penetrate it's enemies than a T49, it will get bullied by meds or any fast heavy like an IS-7.


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