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Thekingoftheworldoftanks #1 Posted 20 October 2020 - 04:47 PM

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What do you think about the update 7.4 leaked buffs?

Especially the tier 6 German TD DPM buff and the ISU-152 penetration buff?

They sure did not need them.

 



Selthae #2 Posted 20 October 2020 - 05:19 PM

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View PostThekingoftheworldoftanks, on 20 October 2020 - 04:47 PM, said:

What do you think about the update 7.4 leaked buffs?

Especially the tier 6 German TD DPM buff and the ISU-152 penetration buff?

They sure did not need them.

 

 

Can't say a thing about it if you include no information.


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talhaONE #3 Posted 21 October 2020 - 12:10 AM

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View PostThekingoftheworldoftanks, on 20 October 2020 - 06:47 PM, said:

What do you think about the update 7.4 leaked buffs?

Especially the tier 6 German TD DPM buff and the ISU-152 penetration buff?

They sure did not need them.

 

They are buffing tds after they overbuffed the heavies. 

 

Its needed. 



DumbApe #4 Posted 21 October 2020 - 12:15 AM

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Big DPM buff for JgPzIV like to 3700DPM ... as I see it it is following the buff to the heavies to dabble with game balance.

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Thekingoftheworldoftanks #5 Posted 21 October 2020 - 06:39 AM

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View PostSelthae, on 20 October 2020 - 05:19 PM, said:

 

Can't say a thing about it if you include no information.

I don't remember all the numbers.

Just that the tier 6 German TD is getting 3700 maxed out dpm 

Doodles, meadsy and pantouflee all have a video on it...idk about the other youtubers. That's from where I got the info from

 

 

 



Mjr_Eazy #6 Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:37 AM

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Has WG gone and....made an error?

Yes! 

It’s all true!  Tell us more!


Next closed question?

:P

 

seriously though, it’s deliberate, they need to buff them after the heavy buffs as heavies too buff...

7.6 or 7.7 will have a buff for meds as they will need one now...

Just a cynical marketing ploy


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LordNibs9 #7 Posted 21 October 2020 - 03:21 PM

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If they overbuffed the heavies why not just nerf them or do buffs across all vehicle types rather than just TDs... I suppose if premium heavies got buffed when they did so a heavy-wide nerf may not be feasible. 
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O_o__O_o__O_o #8 Posted 21 October 2020 - 03:50 PM

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to keep the game "interesting" next are mediums as Mjr said around May i think before summer season starts

Titus_Scato #9 Posted 21 October 2020 - 03:51 PM

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That would mean WG tacitly admitting that they made a mistake.  They won't do that.

O_o__O_o__O_o #10 Posted 21 October 2020 - 03:55 PM

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its not a mistake just their way of balancing and keeping players grinding tanks and playing the game

its like OP tanks in Crates after 2years milking players then they start buffing other tanks untill they are not OP anymore

yes around this time next year smasher wont be OP either by many buffs on tech tree or they will release other broken tank in crates



Thekingoftheworldoftanks #11 Posted 21 October 2020 - 04:37 PM

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Based on what most people think, WG will keep on Huffington tanks and adding more and more powerfull premiums to the game
What's your guess on which update will break the 10k DPM barrier?

romsitsa #12 Posted 21 October 2020 - 10:04 PM

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Jpz was overbuffed maybe two? years ago, it got insane dpm and traverse. Then the Black Prince was buffed too and it got the highest ever dpm on the planet. Hope history will repeat itself once again.

 

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oh yes i will pray with you for some BP buffs 3.1s reload is too much and more armour is needed

talhaONE #14 Posted 22 October 2020 - 12:27 AM

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View Postromsitsa, on 22 October 2020 - 12:04 AM, said:

Jpz was overbuffed maybe two? years ago, it got insane dpm and traverse. Then the Black Prince was buffed too and it got the highest ever dpm on the planet. Hope history will repeat itself once again.

 

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Forget the damn high dpm = Op superstition. Neither Jg pz 4 or Black Prince ever were Op.

 

Su-122-54 currently have a Dpm that a tier X tank can only see in its dream yet its still an average tank overall. Just because it has high dpm doesnt mean its op.

 

Instead complain about how tier 8 heavy tanks has same health pool with tier 10 meds. That would make sense. 



net4force #15 Posted 22 October 2020 - 12:04 PM

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WG analyses statistics ongoing. Surely they will have a substantiated analysis for the upcoming buffs and nerfs, besides their objective to continuing making the game more attractive to relatively new players. However, I am not a fan of some of the choices they made in the past, let alone the upcoming buff for tds:

- WG assessed that meds were too powerful and nerfed them severely;

- WG introduced tds, especially in tier X, that are capable of shaving off >50% of the hp-pool of meds in a single shot;

- WG favoured playing heavies by buffing them substantially;

- WG now 'discovers' that tds have become less effective towards heavies and intends to buff the tds;

- next will be that meds will have become less effective and meds will probably receive a buff in three to six months.

 

Besides the buffs and nerfs applied by WG structurally (which I may or may not like, but I understand where they come from) existing tanks have a serious problem of negative 'power creep' also because of the regular introduction of introducing new tanks. Have a look at the med T54 Mod 1 (tier VIII) for instance. It used to be a really powerful tank two years ago. Now it is just a mediocre tank, not being played by a lot players anymore.



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Sweet.  Been meaning to go up the JG line.  Then switch to the t62 line :harp:

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View Postnet4force, on 22 October 2020 - 02:04 PM, said:

- WG introduced tds, especially in tier X, that are capable of shaving off >50% of the hp-pool of meds in a single shot;

High alpha tds were always a thing in Wot blitz. 

View Postnet4force, on 22 October 2020 - 02:04 PM, said:

 Have a look at the med T54 Mod 1 (tier VIII) for instance. It used to be a really powerful tank two years ago. Now it is just a mediocre tank, not being played by a lot players anymore.

I laughed hard to this one. T54 Mod 1 is the only medium tank in game that has more overall winrate then %60 according to the offical 7.2 charts. If you want a "mediocre" medium tank, look nowhere else then Pershing. 



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View PosttalhaONE, on 22 October 2020 - 12:27 AM, said:

Forget the damn high dpm = Op superstition. Neither Jg pz 4 or Black Prince ever were Op.

 

Su-122-54 currently have a Dpm that a tier X tank can only see in its dream yet its still an average tank overall. Just because it has high dpm doesnt mean its op.

 

Instead complain about how tier 8 heavy tanks has same health pool with tier 10 meds. That would make sense. 

Ooooooooohhh talhaONE........sense from you at last.....now all you need to do is to remember your comment above WHEN you start on the poor Keni Otsu again!



talhaONE #19 Posted 25 October 2020 - 12:56 AM

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View Postllo1, on 23 October 2020 - 09:18 AM, said:

Ooooooooohhh talhaONE........sense from you at last.....now all you need to do is to remember your comment above WHEN you start on the poor Keni Otsu again!

Keni otsu doesnt have just high dpm. It has all the advantages of the regular keni had while keeping that dpm.

 

Thank you for proving that you are completely clueless about balancing. Again. 



Selthae #20 Posted 25 October 2020 - 03:16 AM

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View PosttalhaONE, on 25 October 2020 - 12:56 AM, said:

Keni otsu doesnt have just high dpm. It has all the advantages of the regular keni had while keeping that dpm.

 

Thank you for proving that you are completely clueless about balancing. Again. 

 

Thank you for proving you have no actual ability to debate on content. Again.

 

 


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