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Tier X learning enjoying Rating Battles 101B IS-4 T110E5 Vickers Light 105

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DeusExMachina_Terminator #1 Posted 22 November 2021 - 02:32 PM

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I am looking for a tier X tank to improve my skills (Rating Battles have the best players and place to learn). Which tanks do you recommend for learning?


My WR is ~57% https://www.blitzstars.com/player/eu/DeusExMachina_Terminator
I planned to buy 101B to avoid credit loss, but not sure if I will enjoy it (hard to play due to 6-degree depression). I hope there will be new tier X premium offers soon (e.g. Christmas).
I like my IS-4 and T110E5. I enjoy light tank speed in lower tiers but will not survive with my Vickers Light 105 at tier X.



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View PostDeusExMachina_Terminator, on 22 November 2021 - 03:32 PM, said:

I am looking for a tier X tank to improve my skills (Rating Battles have the best players and place to learn). Which tanks do you recommend for learning?


My WR is ~57% https://www.blitzstars.com/player/eu/DeusExMachina_Terminator
I planned to buy 101B to avoid credit loss, but not sure if I will enjoy it (hard to play due to 6-degree depression). I hope there will be new tier X premium offers soon (e.g. Christmas).
I like my IS-4 and T110E5. I enjoy light tank speed in lower tiers but will not survive with my Vickers Light 105 at tier X.

What class should it be? Medium or a heavy? 


                                                                                                                                       


Sajo_2019 #3 Posted 22 November 2021 - 06:19 PM

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I am trying super heavies and now going for mouse.

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DeusExMachina_Terminator #4 Posted 23 November 2021 - 06:25 AM

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View PostEndtastic, on 22 November 2021 - 06:01 PM, said:

What class should it be? Medium or a heavy? 

I guess fast heavy is a safer choice. The Mouse is too slow. I guess I need a tank that makes possible relocation and teaches map awareness. 

I am ready to try medium if this is more fun. I guess the best tank is the one you enjoy and play often. 


Edited by DeusExMachina_Terminator, 23 November 2021 - 06:29 AM.


gallabru #5 Posted 23 November 2021 - 07:17 AM

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AMX50B or T57 are very good for map awareness and relocation imo.
They are mobile heavy.

You need to decide where and when dump your clip (and whole clip?) and where you could find cover while reloading because it is long and you will not bounce that much. 


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O_o__O_o__O_o #6 Posted 23 November 2021 - 07:30 AM

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t57 is kind of slow

but 50b and is7 are great



Battousai1000 #7 Posted 23 November 2021 - 10:50 AM

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Just get a T22 Soviet Med when it comes on sale, drive into battle, deploy black hole armor, bounce JGs and 183s to the side, laugh as reds rage about a broken game.  Do NOT get the 121B, its not beginner friendly.  It's possibly the most mediocre of tier 10 Meds: Lack of gun depression as you said, double cupolas make for a weak turret, armor not as good as t62, gun handling meh, gun alpha lacking the 400+ of other chinese meds neuters this tank way too bad.

Endtastic #8 Posted 23 November 2021 - 04:44 PM

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View PostO_o__O_o__O_o, on 23 November 2021 - 08:30 AM, said:

t57 is kind of slow

but 50b and is7 are great

After the update, T57 is much better than the 50B, the armour now is almost OP. 


                                                                                                                                       


DeusExMachina_Terminator #9 Posted 26 November 2021 - 04:17 PM

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Thanks for the advice, everyone!

 

I got T54E1 today and I enjoy it (Mastery I/II/II during the first 3 games). I have high expectations about T57.

Next, I will try 50B and maybe also Kranvagn (a bit slow, but good hull-down I guess).

What about M-VI-Yoh, does it has similar gameplay to T57/50B?

 

 

I will keep eye on T22 Soviet Med (good side armor, if angled correctly), but I guess it is really expensive. Thanks for the warning about 121B :B

What about other tier X premium tanks (ideally I would like to have at least one P2W high credit coefficient tank which I enjoy and play well in rating battles)? Marked as bold the tanks which I should keep on eye based on my research.

 

  • Object 907 53.17% (WR source https://www.blitzstars.com/toptanks)
  • AMX M4 mle. 54 52.66%
  • T-22 medium 52.19%
  • VK 90.01 (P) 51.09%
  • Super Conqueror 50.42%
  • Object 260 50.22%
  • FV217 Badger 49.92%
  • Chieftain Mk.6 49.77%
  • AMX 30 B 49.23%
  • WZ-111 model 5A 49.08%
  • T95E6 48.78%
  • M60 47.94%
  • 121B 47.86%

 

 


Edited by DeusExMachina_Terminator, 26 November 2021 - 05:40 PM.


gallabru #10 Posted 26 November 2021 - 04:58 PM

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I think auto-loaders are very different from auto-reloaders.

With auto-loaders, you rely only on the burst damage and you have to think how to do the best use of each clip (reduce lot of hp of one tank, eliminate different tanks). During reload you are very vulnerable. Will you starts a 20sec reload when you have 1 shell left ?

With auto-reloaders you can use the same playstyle excepts that you don't have to. You can also play 'lazily' as a poor dpm usual tank.

 

You were looking for a tank which would teach you map awareness and thinking in advance. Auto-loaders do not let you the possibility to do otherwise.

 

Now credit coefficient is another issue.


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Sajo_2019 #11 Posted 27 November 2021 - 12:18 PM

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t54 is good. I had 50% Wr in it. But I sold it out because other stats were not good in it.

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DeusExMachina_Terminator #12 Posted 30 November 2021 - 06:44 PM

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I got the T57 and I love it. Fun tank and good WR:izmena:

Battousai1000 #13 Posted 01 December 2021 - 01:18 PM

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View PostDeusExMachina_Terminator, on 26 November 2021 - 04:17 PM, said:

Thanks for the advice, everyone!

 

I got T54E1 today and I enjoy it (Mastery I/II/II during the first 3 games). I have high expectations about T57.

Next, I will try 50B and maybe also Kranvagn (a bit slow, but good hull-down I guess).

What about M-VI-Yoh, does it has similar gameplay to T57/50B?

 

 

I will keep eye on T22 Soviet Med (good side armor, if angled correctly), but I guess it is really expensive. Thanks for the warning about 121B :B

What about other tier X premium tanks (ideally I would like to have at least one P2W high credit coefficient tank which I enjoy and play well in rating battles)? Marked as bold the tanks which I should keep on eye based on my research.

 

  • Object 907 53.17% (WR source https://www.blitzstars.com/toptanks)
  • AMX M4 mle. 54 52.66%
  • T-22 medium 52.19%
  • VK 90.01 (P) 51.09%
  • Super Conqueror 50.42%
  • Object 260 50.22%
  • FV217 Badger 49.92%
  • Chieftain Mk.6 49.77%
  • AMX 30 B 49.23%
  • WZ-111 model 5A 49.08%
  • T95E6 48.78%
  • M60 47.94%
  • 121B 47.86%

 

 

The AMX M4 mle. 54.  It's between this and the T22, everything else(maybe besides Vk90.01p)is not quantifiably better than tech tree. Obj 907 and 206 are new tanks, and driven mostly by unicums and people who know what they're doing.  Mediocre tanks at best, though the 907 has an interesting armor profile.

 

*Edit-wait until the obj 268/4 TD is released.  By all accounts this thing is going to break tier X if it stays as it is lol.


Edited by Battousai1000, 01 December 2021 - 01:28 PM.


DeusExMachina_Terminator #14 Posted 03 December 2021 - 10:20 AM

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Did you mean Object 260, which is currently sold for 20k gold?

I noticed it is a fast HT, accurate and good reload, but played as a medium due to bad armor. Also 6-degree depression.

 

View PostBattousai1000, on 01 December 2021 - 01:18 PM, said:

Obj 907 and 206 are new tanks, and driven mostly by unicums and people who know what they're doing.  Mediocre tanks at best, though the 907 has an interesting armor profile.



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View PostDeusExMachina_Terminator, on 03 December 2021 - 11:20 AM, said:

Did you mean Object 260, which is currently sold for 20k gold?

I noticed it is a fast HT, accurate and good reload, but played as a medium due to bad armor. Also 6-degree depression.

 

Objekt 260 is quite hard to play, but can be a lot of fun if you know what you are doing. 


                                                                                                                                       





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